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    Quote Originally Posted by wereotter View Post
    Clearly this person feels like the item is worth less than you do. Maybe this is a person who wants to move items quickly through their retainers so they can free up those market spaces to sell other items, or maybe this person just thinks the market is inflated and that the item could be made cheaply and has no business being as expensive as it is.

    Don't just cry that this person is undercutting your selling price, diversify. Find a new niche to fill, or find a more efficient way to make a profit on this same item. This is basic capitalism, and that is the economic model that rules our current market board system.
    Not crying but thanks for the intake. I guess I have to give up and let her win the furniture market since 1k gil for an item isn't anything.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leloa View Post
    Not crying but thanks for the intake. I guess I have to give up and let her win the furniture market since 1k gil for an item isn't anything.
    Has this player monopolized all the furniture items on the MB? I highly doubt that. You won't do very well in the MB game if you give up every time someone gives you competition. If this is a crafted item, have you considered putting up the raw mats for sale, or produce another furniture item? You're also not going to do too well if you don't broaden your scope on the items you put up for sale.

    In short, you have to adapt to the MB. It will never adapt to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gemina View Post
    Has this player monopolized all the furniture items on the MB? I highly doubt that. You won't do very well in the MB game if you give up every time someone gives you competition. If this is a crafted item, have you considered putting up the raw mats for sale, or produce another furniture item? You're also not going to do too well if you don't broaden your scope on the items you put up for sale.

    In short, you have to adapt to the MB. It will never adapt to you.
    Most of the items, most items that make money or used to for sure. I always try to make items she isn't selling but then few days later suddenly everything I am selling she is selling too and much lower price. She usually has windows and other certain items for sale so I try to not touch her territory but surely she doesn't care about others. She has already made it clear it's just to annoy people, no matter if she can make money or not herself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Leloa View Post
    Most of the items, most items that make money or used to for sure. I always try to make items she isn't selling but then few days later suddenly everything I am selling she is selling too and much lower price. She usually has windows and other certain items for sale so I try to not touch her territory but surely she doesn't care about others. She has already made it clear it's just to annoy people, no matter if she can make money or not herself.
    I know exactly who you are talking about on our server, and it is definitely out of spite what they do. I have also tried to find items with little or no listings, come back later and they have listed an entire retainer's worth at 1/12 of the price. It costs more to craft the items they sell, than the price they sell things at.

    I noticed this person so often, that I actually started remembering their retainer's names, and counted at one point, and they have something like over 30 retainers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoshi-Shouri View Post
    I know exactly who you are talking about on our server, and it is definitely out of spite what they do. I have also tried to find items with little or no listings, come back later and they have listed an entire retainer's worth at 1/12 of the price. It costs more to craft the items they sell, than the price they sell things at.

    I noticed this person so often, that I actually started remembering their retainer's names, and counted at one point, and they have something like over 30 retainers.
    I'm quite on the fence about this because...people can list stuff for any price they want. However I have a suggestion...try to sell things they don't sell? There is no way they can be selling EVERYTHING.
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    That gif about sums it up xD

    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I'm quite on the fence about this because...people can list stuff for any price they want. However I have a suggestion...try to sell things they don't sell? There is no way they can be selling EVERYTHING.
    If it's crafted by a carpenter, alchemist, weaver, armorer, goldsmith they probably have it listed. Rugs, plants, windows, furnishings, minions, lighting, they have 20 of items listed, from 2k - 30k. They've even tanked the price on items only crafted with fc ship voyage mats almost immediately. Buying their 'cheap and good' items to relist isn't an option because they would immediately make more and sell them for practically nothing.

    And they definitely have a personal vendetta against anyone who tries to compete with them. I've also tried your solution of selling things they don't sell: I had a random mat from desynthing the other day, searched what things it crafted, made the fat cat clock because there was only ONE on the mb (not crafted by this person) thinking it would be a quick sell... the next day this person had 20 listed for half the price. lol They are a menace.

    It's mostly just frustrating because there's really nothing anyone can do about it.

    And you're right, they can list any price they want, but they are literally undercutting themselves with each of their listings, with prices going from 30k to 2k, and them only undercutting their own retainers in doing that. Where's the logic in that? Why spend your time gathering and crafting this stuff, constantly pumping it out in such a way you can't possibly be making any meaningful profit? Especially if they don't even need/want the gil, it seems like an even more confusing way to operate. If they aren't using bots, what they do must take a lot of time, so.. why bother? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Last edited by Hoshi-Shouri; 08-28-2020 at 02:30 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    I'm quite on the fence about this because...people can list stuff for any price they want. However I have a suggestion...try to sell things they don't sell? There is no way they can be selling EVERYTHING.
    Shows what you know. They are in the marketing bizz of doing excatly THAT. Selling everything in inconvenient locations all over the planet. :O
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