Whispering during dungeons

[Woodenbucket]

I can understand why you wouldn't want your party to whisper during a dungeon, however every time I need to whisper or open my social tabs for something I'm never able to during a duty. Will there ever be a chance for them to let us whisper during dungeons and trials because there are many times where I want to whisper a friend and I'm never able to. I don't like the idea of everyone in the party chat reading what I'm saying if it doesn't involve them (which is why I never do it) when I could easily just whisper a friend in the dungeon or even whisper a friend outside a dungeon (also annoying how you can't whisper a friend that is inside a dungeon), I can understand it may bring some sort of negativity or "toxicity" by talking about the people in your group privately but honestly that happens either way and I think having the functionality of being able to whisper and use your social tab during dungeons is a better thing overall for the game.

[Skivvy]

I actually wish you could whisper to party members mid-instance as you'd be able to give advice/suggestions in private, and I feel like that would typically be better received than just broadcasting it in the party. On the flip side of course, you could get the prats who then take to /whisper insults, but I would hope that would be the minority of people.

If you have a specific friend, or a small group you want to be able to chat with always, you could make a linkshell or crossworld-linkshell just for that small group.

[Seraphor]

Set up a linkshell with that friend.
If you have space this is.
Linkshells, FC chat, and Novice Network can all be used in all instances.

[Jirah]

“Lol this Healer sucks”
“Your Dance partner just died, gimme”

[Woodenbucket]

If you have a specific friend, or a small group you want to be able to chat with always, you could make a linkshell or crossworld-linkshell just for that small group.

I'm assuming a linkshell is some sort of group chat type of thing, correct? If so there may be a scenario where you only want to message 1 person from that linkshell as well as not just flood yourself with a lot of linkshells, that being said though I'm not saying linkshells are bad, it's probably since I come from a lot of games where you can just instantly whisper the person and be on your way.

[Seraphor]

I'm assuming a linkshell is some sort of group chat type of thing, correct? If so there may be a scenario where you only want to message 1 person from that linkshell as well as not just flood yourself with a lot of linkshells, that being said though I'm not saying linkshells are bad, it's probably since I come from a lot of games where you can just instantly whisper the person and be on your way.

How many people would you want to whisper in dungeons exactly?
You can have just 1 or 2 people in a LS if you want.
For example I have a couple of close friends and we have a LS just for us three (we're not always on at the same time though, so in practice it's just 2 of us at a time) then another one for the leaders of my FC which again is just 4 people, one of those being in the same LS as the first.
Then another group of friends have another larger LS.
Everyone else I regularly communicate to is in my FC and there's not much I would be bothered by sharing in FC chat either. Things like "you won't believe what this stupid tank just did" isn't unheard of as a venting avenue.

Each LS functions just like FC chat does, instead of /FC before your message you just type /L# with # being the number of the LS.

[Vidu]

I'm assuming a linkshell is some sort of group chat type of thing, correct? If so there may be a scenario where you only want to message 1 person from that linkshell as well as not just flood yourself with a lot of linkshells, that being said though I'm not saying linkshells are bad, it's probably since I come from a lot of games where you can just instantly whisper the person and be on your way.

Each linkshell can have up to 128 members, you can only invite players from your own server (and you cant do so in dungeons) - a linkshell is a permanent chat (until its deleted), so its always available to all of its members (exception being if they're visiting a different server, using the world visit system). You can also only have a maximum of 8 linkshells.
So much about linkshells...

...and with that being said: I have to disagree with your proposal.
If you want to correct a mistake a party member made or give some advice, you should be able to phrase that in a way thats appropriate to be said in a group envoriment in the first place - and secondly: That advice might be useful to more than just the person you sent the /tell to - or maybe someone else in the group can give even better advice (for example: I can tell a dragoon that they need to pay attention to their buffs and positionals, but thats about it - if there is someone in the group who actually mains dragoon, they might be able to give additional advice or pointers such as "This buff is more important than that one and placing your hotkeys in this order can help!").

And in regards to sending /tells to your friends about things that you cant say in a linkshell or FC-chat: Cant that wait til after the run (a run that should last something between 15 and 25 minutes, on average)?
Maybe I'm to... what would be the word... "pessimistic" here, but I believe that during a duty you should focus on that first, not on a conversation you're having with a friend (a conversation thats so private that you cant have it in a linkshell). FC-chats and linkshells seem kinda okay-ish to me, since there can be legitimate questions that you want to ask during a run (that cant be answered by the group), but even for those I've been in one to many runs where someone wasnt paying attention because they were chatting with their FC. I believe that would only get worse if you added private conversations to this mix, since those usually require even more attention than a group-chat (like LS, FC) that allows for you not responding for a few minutes.
Any conversation that needs to happen during a run with outside sources should be conversation that can be held non-privately - I'm thinking of things like "Anyone remember the mechanics for [boss]?" or "At what level is WHM getting Regen again? Because this guy isnt using it..." or even "Man, this tank here sucks...!"
Any private conversation that would require your attention should wait until the run is over - and if it cant wait, you either dont queue up or you leave the dungeon, have your conversation and re-queue once your penalty is over.

I see more harm than good in allowing for private conversations (aka /tells) during duty-runs - giving advice in group-chat seems preferable to me and having a little chat with your friend can wait until you actually have the time for that.

[KageTokage]

While doing mentor roulettes, I've had multiple run-ins with people who are doing extreme trials, but not actually reading party chat to know what the heck was going on so they really do need to permit some manner of communication in duties that can be seen at all times.

Some of them admitted to it after wiping the group several times and finally realizing that they must be doing something wrong, while I suspect others simply never bothered reading it at all.

[Quintessa]

There's something to be said about a gaming community when you have people unsure about the ethics/etiquette of sending tells to others in a dungeon.. this was a thing in all the other MMO's I've played, even FFXI, and it wasn't abused in such a way as people are fearing here. Even the devs obviously used some measure of social foresight when programming the chat system, and there's just a lot of stuff we can't do, that can be done in other games without much worry.

In the last 20 or so years, what's happened to people?

[Woodenbucket]

...and with that being said: I have to disagree with your proposal.
If you want to correct a mistake a party member made or give some advice, you should be able to phrase that in a way thats appropriate to be said in a group envoriment in the first place - and secondly: That advice might be useful to more than just the person you sent the /tell to - or maybe someone else in the group can give even better advice (for example: I can tell a dragoon that they need to pay attention to their buffs and positionals, but thats about it - if there is someone in the group who actually mains dragoon, they might be able to give additional advice or pointers such as "This buff is more important than that one and placing your hotkeys in this order can help!").

My thought wasn't to whisper a random and tell them that they're doing something wrong, however there are quite a bit of people no matter how you phrase it that start to feel uncomfortable if someone is talking about them in a party, even if you're a group of friends the anxiety still kicks in. There have been multiple times I'm doing a roulette for example and I want to check my friends list to whisper something to a friend really quickly and not being able to have that functionality can get pretty annoying. Maybe they can figure out a way to whisper people you have in your friends list or something? I don't think going through the effort of having to make a linkshell with groups of friends is really a good way in doing things. There is also the chance that I only want to message 1 specific person from that linkshell which will force you to make multiple linkshells, it's similar to discord, you have your servers and then you have your dms both should be separate things.

For focusing in the dungeon, not to sound egotistical or anything but the dungeons (especially when just doing your roulettes) don't require much attention in general and sometimes just messaging people during that can make it more enjoyable, locking out almost everything social wise when entering a dungeon is just unethical in my opinion especially when you say if it is somewhat important being forced to leave the dungeon and suffer a penalty with something that could've been prevented by just having the ability to whisper during the dungeon. I think people just instantly assume the worst when it comes to whispers and I 100% see where they are coming from too, it can be very toxic and scary sometimes but I've noticed the FF community when it comes to toxicity handles it extremely well, also with my experience of MMO's I'd say 90% off all the whispers I have every received has not been in a toxic manner it's one of those things where a few people make it horrible for the rest.