How has your mindset changed with regards to other players since your started the ga?

[Crushnight]

not a new player friendly set of opinions. What if someone is learning a new Class/Job? Those are some really obnoxious and fairly toxic WOW level opinions. My take, go play World of Warcrap, you'll fit in with that amount of judgment.

I find your opinion worse, either agree with how I view things or get out of playing the game.

Billy said best Context is key with how people are viewed, I give people a very generous window of allowance, from lv1-60 i'll treat them much more coddly, but from 61 onwards training wheels are coming off and my expectations are that of the OP (so like the majority of my encounters in FFXIV atm), I don't care if someone has boosted, it is on them to get familiar with 6+ years of mechanics, job design, community expectations, if they can't handle it go sync down and learn like other people do who don’t pay to skip.

Design of tanks and healers have been made as easy as possible, if you go back to HW, enmity was a real thing tanks had to be wary of and mass pulling could go horribly wrong much easier if you ever had a dps burst 1 mob, cycling to it was a giant pain in a size of 7/8 to ensure you had hate, which also meant less aoe enmity generation. Healers were punished with higher wipe potential if mistimed cleric stance since made your heals pathetic. Both things are removed a tank nowadays has to press 3 buttons for big pulls, tank stance + 2 aoe combo , if that is too hard for people they should go back and learn how, not be coddled, new to dungeon doesn't excuse can't do job as expected, period.

New to Grand Cosmos, cool, why are you stopping on the 1st set of enemies and not even attempting to see if can get more. If a healer doesn't have to heal you, you can pull more. It is always best to do a big 1st pull as you can gauge whether rest of dungeon needs small pulls or your free for big pulls for rest of dungeon, it also offers the least amount of time wasting for running back if fails.

Healers have braindead rotation for their dps, if you can't spare a single gcd heal to DoT up either you need to look at what your doing wrong or the tank needs to, be it gear, skill usage, what have you, no excuse for pure healers, that stopped being meh i'll tolerate once they changed Cleric Stance in Stormblood. I do not care for pure healers at all, they are a blight on healer players and I hope I never run into them, but I still wouldn't tell them to go play something else , I just tell them to dps if snarky response or refusal, Das Silent Big Boy Boot, if passed good ridence, if doesn't, cya party.

[MsMisato]

My perception of people has differed greatly from ARR time.

General Players:
I've gotten more cynical over the years and just move on, someone's doing something stupid gee must be a day that ends in y, but I do still have fun with random people even to this day just now more people seem to be afraid to open their mouth.

Tank players:
I come to expect big pulls as an automatic thing now, by making things more accessible I expect more from the individual since it is not as hard as having to Flash spam anymore.

Healers:
I expect healers to dps as a given now, anyone not even attempting DoTs I find incredibly selfish and wasting my time no matter how good healing they do, this wasn't the case when og cleric was thing because of how punishing it was on a misclick, harpens back to tank note by making it more accessible I expect more outta people.

Dps:
I expect them to eat more aoes than ever before, idk why my opinion is so low but I certainly didn't expect them eating dirt as much years ago


Just how I have gradually changed through the community how about you all?

A vast majority of the players really don't care about mechanics and what not. They expect to be carry or to be given something for nothing. But it is what it is and the game is designed nowadays to cater to the super casual group it seems.

[Payotz]

The playerbase is so militantly casual. Like they don't want to improve(by pressing more than one button) and when a new player tries to seek advice, they're going to be bombarded with "PLAY HOWEVER YOU WANT. DON'T LISTEN TO THEM!!!111!!!11"

Listen ya'll, because of how static the classes are, they play more like Moba characters. In fact, I would actually argue that FF14 jobs are lot more inflexible compared to Moba characters.
There's really only [ONE] way to play a job. There's no "heal-only" RDM, there's no "ARR" BLM with no enochian and Fire 4 that spams only Fire 2, and there's no "Light-based" DRK where you play with no Flood/Edge of Shadow.
There's only [ONE] way to play a job. That's it.

This doesn't apply to the folks who are accepting advice, but to the folks in DF who literally screeches and has an anxiety attack whenever I say "Hello Whm. You should go ahead and cast Holy since it's effectively a 10 second mitigation for the tank!" and proceeds to go ahead and not heal me as the tank out of spite. I'm more than happy to give advice, but giving advice in this game is akin to a personal attack to people.

[TyrTry]

I have....a different level of patience with the player base.

First time I played, I typically didn't have the friendly welcoming that some new players got. Hell, when I first got to 50 years ago, I tried my luck with some EX trials and got told to "suck a [you know the word]" because we couldn't clear it.

As of now, I tend to handle newer players with a WHOLE lot more patience and understanding than I do with veteran ones. Honestly, I'm at the point of if I don't want to put up with your crap, I'll just head out. Arguing against someone in an MMO is just a waste of time and blood pressure.

If someone wants to screech because I suggested not using Blizzard 3 so dang much, let them. I don't have to deal with you slowing down the run so much because you can't research a basic rotation. If need be, I'll head out and mine some pretty rocks.

[Canadane]

I have, for a long time expected a base level of competency. "You made it to level 50 you should know what you're doing by now!" Replace that with 60 and 70 for the expansions.

My problem is with how accessible they're making the game, they aren't giving players the hard lessons they need to actually learn their roles and how to play. You can face mash your keyboard and basically pass everything the story wants you to.
This is great for sub numbers and for players who only want the story. Those players are perfectly valid, I have long stopped expecting everyone to know how to play at a "high level" (though from others perspectives it's a mid level).

It is hard to expect skill when the game keeps taking away the need for it.

Then again, the NA playerbase has always been wary of taking advice. Nobody wants to hear they have been playing "wrong" this whole time. That's something that hasn't seemed to change since the dawn of time.

I could go on and on about the player mentality, or the dungeon meta, or how annoying tanks are to me as a tank main, or how serious players can take the wrong situations...
But I'm just someone on the Internet, nobody actually cares.

[Liam_Harper]

Those are some really obnoxious and fairly toxic WOW level opinions. My take, go play World of Warcrap, you'll fit in with that amount of judgment.

Read what you just wrote again.

[Goji1639]

Personally I disagree: I'd say this game's playerbase is shockingly patient with newbies in this game... provided they have the sprout icon (at least on my server/DC).
once that's gone all bets are off, though I find the returner status is often ignored despite filling a similar role of telegraphing "hey i probably don't know things".

Savage/EX content is an exception since it's hard content for everyone and implies/demands a certain level of preparedness and technical skill, which is why [duty complete] exists to help separate that iirc.

It's infrequent, but when someone in WoW gets mad it's usually a meltdown, and that can at least be funny.

What this game has is far more frequent instances of people taking snotty little cheap shots at new players, being passive aggressive and just having crappy attitudes in general. Maybe it's just me, but I find that kind of thing way more annoying. From the beginning there's been something about this community I just don't like, and it hasn't changed much over time.

[Gothicshark]

Context is everything. If I'm put in sastasha because of DF and I see my healer is a level 16 CNJ and that's the only class they have unlocked, yeah I can put 2 and 2 together and figure out they're probably not going to be the best healer I've ever had.

Meanwhile if I go into expert roulette and I see you have most classes as 80 and you're a level 80 SCH that spams adlo like no tomorrow and can't use a single bio, yeah, I'm going to think you're trash.

Yes context is everything, however the OP never mentioned Context, which implies they are talking all content, not some.

I find your opinion worse, either agree with how I view things or get out of playing the game.

***Snip (no disagreement with Context is King/queen)***

Healers have braindead rotation for their dps, if you can't spare a single gcd heal to DoT up either you need to look at what your doing wrong or the tank needs to, be it gear, skill usage, what have you, no excuse for pure healers, that stopped being meh i'll tolerate once they changed Cleric Stance in Stormblood. I do not care for pure healers at all, they are a blight on healer players and I hope I never run into them, but I still wouldn't tell them to go play something else , I just tell them to dps if snarky response or refusal, Das Silent Big Boy Boot, if passed good ridence, if doesn't, cya party.

I refuse to play with people who have a difference in Morality, the OP has a toxic Morality, which is bad for any game, it's why World of Warcraft is no longer tolerable.

I disagree with your opinion since there is a level boost, Randoms under level 70. Since many people are boosting white mage and other healing classes apposed to leveling them normally since the game encourages having all classes leveled max for rewards.

So any Random leveling or sub 80 content expect to find new Healers and tanks.

As for Pure Healer, you're going to see more, as WOW is a sinking ship. And ESO and FFXIV are gaining subs during the failing of WOW. Just like when WOD dropped and millions left WOW in 2015 for FFXIV, the same is happening now. Guess what, these new players come from the Pure Healer mentality. So either join a group you trust, or risk playing with people who have not played here since 2014.

BTW, Fresh blood is good for an MMO. So I'm in the camp of acceptance.

[Gothicshark]

Read what you just wrote again.

I'm sorry, what is your point? I have dyslexia, and although I run everything through several grammar checks and text to speech. "that amount of judgment." besides the Paladin pun, but I doubt the OP is a WOW Paladin, I fail to see what's wrong.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I'm sorry, what is your point? I have dyslexia, and although I run everything through several grammar checks and text to speech. "that amount of judgment." besides the Paladin pun, but I doubt the OP is a WOW Paladin, I fail to see what's wrong.

I'd hazard he's implying you'd also fit right at home in WoW with your post dripping with judgement. And I happen to agree.