Do you think certain jobs influence the gear of their class more than others?

[Morningstar1337]

(NOTE: by "class" I'm talking about Fending, Healing, Aiming, etc, not the actual classes like THM or ARC)

I've been wondering about this for a little bit. It feels like most gear in the classes of Casting, Healing, etc were designed for one specific job in mind and fails to acknowledge the aesthetics of the other jobs that share the gear. But I want to asks if you have similar opinions, and if so, which jobs do you think have control over the armor class' aesthetics (besides Maiming and Scouting, which have obvious answers for obvious reasons)

[KDSilver]

Healing gear mostly have a WHMish vibe.

[Vidu]

Yes, I often feel that certain sets are tailored more towards one of the multiple jobs being able to wear them - even more so if there are even shared sets (most often the case with casters and healers). I often "envy" dragoons because they actually do always get gear made specifically for them. However I do feel like they do a good enough job of balancing that out (like having one tank-set feel more natural on paladin, but the next more tailored to warrior etc.) or also just having "neutral" sets alltogether.

I'd say the job who got the shortest stick here is actually dancer - a lot of the Aiming gear seems to be tailored more towards bards, while still looking decent on maschnist, with some pieces (mainly the allagan ones) being reversed. Non of those really fit the dancer all to well - but since most gear was designed before dancer was included in the game, that does seem fair to me (here is hoping that in the future more sets will be more dancer-inclusive - for all races, I might add. I want more outfits that look like you can and would wear them to present a dance in thats NOT a bellydance).

This is actually the reason why I'm always a bit against the idea of making every gear available to every job straight away and why I'm opposed to the idea of making AF-sets wearable by anyone expect the job they're made for. With this "one fits all"-gear we're already seeing that gear thats designed to fit multiple jobs tends to look like its more leaning towards one of them - without ever fitting any of them 100% (like AF gear usually does). It all gets a bit wishy-washy once its "for everyone" instead of tailored specifically for one job.

[Quintessa]

Tank gear seems to be neutral to the jobs and instead is tailored towards the instance it's dropped from.

[Morningstar1337]

Yes, I often feel that certain sets are tailored more towards one of the multiple jobs being able to wear them - even more so if there are even shared sets (most often the case with casters and healers). I often "envy" dragoons because they actually do always get gear made specifically for them. However I do feel like they do a good enough job of balancing that out (like having one tank-set feel more natural on paladin, but the next more tailored to warrior etc.) or also just having "neutral" sets alltogether.

Yeah I kinda feel like there is a lean towards PLD/DRK, but that might be confirmation bias. I ha vent really seen anything viking esque save the Noct gear and the most GNBesque armor is the AF and crafted generic pieces

I'd say the job who got the shortest stick here is actually dancer - a lot of the Aiming gear seems to be tailored more towards bards, while still looking decent on maschnist, with some pieces (mainly the allagan ones) being reversed. Non of those really fit the dancer all to well - but since most gear was designed before dancer was included in the game, that does seem fair to me (here is hoping that in the future more sets will be more dancer-inclusive - for all races, I might add. I want more outfits that look like you can and would wear them to present a dance in thats NOT a bellydance).

I had observed that the older jobs have prescience, esp is they had a gear class to themselves like MNK and BRD previous have and DRG and (mostly) NIN still do (course even then DRG is likely to have more PLD/DRK esque gear and NIN shared early ARR gear with MNK and their current gear could go between that or Phys Ranged).

This is actually the reason why I'm always a bit agains the idea of making every gear available to every job straight away and why I'm opposed to the idea of making AF-sets wearable by anyone expect the job they're made for. With this "one fits all"-gear we're already seeing that gear thats designed to fit multiple jobs tends to look like its more leaning towards one of them - without ever fitting any of them 100% (like AF gear usually does). It all gets a bit wishy-washy ones its "for everyone" instead of tailored specifically for one job.

Agreed on the AF. But I'm not opposed to unlocked replica sets of specific gear like the similar job-locked PVP gear (Wolfseye, Birdsong, etc).

Of course I also agree that most of the gear seemed too generic, which prolly explains my attachment to the Animaliege gear and the contest winners (esp Bonewicca). Of course the geenricness is not (as) germane to this thread outside of that BLM resembles classic wizards.

[SamRF]

I'd say the job who got the shortest stick here is actually dancer - a lot of the Aiming gear seems to be tailored more towards bards, while still looking decent on maschnist, with some pieces (mainly the allagan ones) being reversed. Non of those really fit the dancer all to well - but since most gear was designed before dancer was included in the game, that does seem fair to me (here is hoping that in the future more sets will be more dancer-inclusive - for all races, I might add. I want more outfits that look like you can and would wear them to present a dance in thats NOT a bellydance).

Actually I feel like most aiming gear is tailored towards a high fantasy ranger, which doesn't even exist in this game.

Edit: on hindsight, would probably make more sense to have them tailer to a neutral ranged concept instead of a particular job. Would still love to get a more pure ranger job in this game. And yeah fantasy bard looks kind of like a ranger anyway so I've made a pretty useless remark.

[Vidu]

Agreed on the AF. But I'm not opposed to unlocked replica sets of specific gear like the similar job-locked PVP gear (Wolfseye, Birdsong, etc).

Of course I also agree that most of the gear seemed too generic, which prolly explains my attachment to the Animaliege gear and the contest winners (esp Bonewicca). Of course the geenricness is not (as) germane to this thread outside of that BLM resembles classic wizards.

I'm always a bit torn on that - on the one hand I'm thinking "Well, where would be the harm in unlocking a set thats several years old now? It has been designed with that job in mind and fits it very well, but if people want to glamour it onto other jobs now, why not?" - while another (maybe overly cautious?) part of my brain goes: "But doesnt that increase the chance that future sets wont be tailored aswell anymore, because the artist are - even if only subconsciously - thinking 'Well, this is going to be worn by all jobs eventually, so better not make it to unique/distinct'" - which is the reasoning I suspect behind the shared job-sets never looking like they're really fitting any of their jobs aswell as "unique" job-sets, like AF or Maiming and Scouting gear does. Even though I feel like certain shared sets match one job better than the others, its never quite "perfect" - kinda a bit like "Yeah, this set is 60% bard, 30% maschnist and 10% dancer" (if that makes sense?).

[Morningstar1337]

I'm always a bit torn on that - on the one hand I'm thinking "Well, where would be the harm in unlocking a set thats several years old now? It has been designed with that job in mind and fits it very well, but if people want to glamour it onto other jobs now, why not?" - while another (maybe overly cautious?) part of my brain goes: "But doesnt that increase the chance that future sets wont be tailored aswell anymore, because the artist are - even if only subconsciously - thinking 'Well, this is going to be worn by all jobs eventually, so better not make it to unique/distinct'" - which is the reasoning I suspect behind the shared job-sets never looking like they're really fitting any of their jobs aswell as "unique" job-sets, like AF or Maiming and Scouting gear does. Even though I feel like certain shared sets match one job better than the others, its never quite "perfect" - kinda a bit like "Yeah, this set is 60% bard, 30% maschnist and 10% dancer" (if that makes sense?).

I understand your concern, but with regards to the mentioned animalliege sets, that ship's already sailed. Job locking sdin't sop them being being model swaps of each other (only Snake, Bear, Wolf, Hawk and Bat are locked to a specific Job where as Swan, Lion, Elk, and Bird were repeated for Owl, Lynx, Elk (again) and Parrot gear for other Jobs). Oc this is tangential.

[Packetdancer]

I'd say the job who got the shortest stick here is actually dancer - a lot of the Aiming gear seems to be tailored more towards bards, while still looking decent on maschnist, with some pieces (mainly the allagan ones) being reversed. Non of those really fit the dancer all to well - but since most gear was designed before dancer was included in the game, that does seem fair to me (here is hoping that in the future more sets will be more dancer-inclusive - for all races, I might add. I want more outfits that look like you can and would wear them to present a dance in thats NOT a bellydance).

I find good dancer appearances often involve having to glamour things that aren't necessarily role/class gear at all. The wedding dress makes a superb dancer glam, for instance, because it swirls in the most amazing way. Similarly, right now I'm using the Kupo Pants, Thavnairian Sandals, and the Dalmascan Draped Top (dyed metallic gold) as a dancer glam, and it makes a look that's not all that different than something you might see someone wear on a dance competition show.

[Stepjam]

White Mage definitely influences healer gear considering most healer gear is the caster dps gear but white