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  1. #81
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    TyrTry's Avatar
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    Tyr Gowind
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    Diabolos
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    Paladin Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by lolicon09 View Post
    if you don't like it, just don't play it; simple. you aren't forced to run those dungeons or it's roulette, and you know full well what you're getting into when choosing them
    Square should make this a disclaimer each time someone picks a roulette.
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  2. #82
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    LalafellDown's Avatar
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    Ultima Ultima
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    Tonberry
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    Dark Knight Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    Getting a VA to talk (in several languages, mind) isn't as easy as phoning them in. They need to be paid, and they would need to get that same VA for ARR. I dont know if there were any changes for German or French in the transition to Heavensward, but if there were- then that's even more money. The voice actor isn't going to travel to the studio that hired them and read off some lines for free. Nor is the director going to direct for free, or audio engineers ect ect.
    Why are you telling me this?
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  3. #83
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    AduroT's Avatar
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    Aduro Terrarum
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    Hyperion
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    Miner Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    You've never watched a favorite movie so many times you get sick of it, no matter how much you once enjoyed it? Never been around many kids? The kids still love it, of course, so you definitely need to play it, but you can't even be in the same room.
    If you’re sick of it, stop queueing it.
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  4. #84
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    Eternity Spellblade
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    Midgardsormr
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    Reaper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by AduroT View Post
    If you’re sick of it, stop queueing it.
    Again lol.
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  5. #85
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    You've never watched a favorite movie so many times you get sick of it, no matter how much you once enjoyed it? Never been around many kids? The kids still love it, of course, so you definitely need to play it, but you can't even be in the same room.
    Newbies in FF14 aren't your kids.
    Don't pretend you're running MSQ roulette for their benefit if you want to skip cutscenes.
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  6. #86
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    KalinOrthos's Avatar
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    Kalin Orthos
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    Mateus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    Again lol.
    No, they're right. If it bothers you that much, go do another roulette. Need tomes? Do the Ivalice raids or spam AV. Need XP? Deep Dungeons, beast tribes, any other roulette will get you a lot of XP. The whole reason those dungeons have such a large XP and irregular tomestone reward is because they have take longer than other dungeons due to unskippable cutscenes.
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  7. #87
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    Iscah's Avatar
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Bismarck
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    Red Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Drkdays View Post
    You've never watched a favorite movie so many times you get sick of it, no matter how much you once enjoyed it? Never been around many kids? The kids still love it, of course, so you definitely need to play it, but you can't even be in the same room.
    Yeah, you don't need to be in the same room... but you do need to let the whole thing play. You don't tell the kids "you can watch it but I'm fast-forwarding over all the action scenes and some of the talking so the running time is shorter for all of us". That's what you're doing from the newbie's perspective if you want to leave them watching the cutscenes while you press on with the dungeon.

    Praetorium is the dungeon where you leave the cutscenes running while you walk away and do other stuff, and only come back every so often for the gameplay segments. It's not ideal, but we're stuck with it because people couldn't self-regulate and wait on the occasions where someone was actually new and watching the cutscenes. Now we have to wait every time.
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  8. #88
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    No, it really was boring for her. The cutscenes sucked too. I was there with her in the same room. I listened to the complaints and agreed. The whole time from level 1-50. I agree with her based on that we can tell poor quality from good quality. The DEVS don’t hear from new players who quit.

    The most upsetting part is she wanted to fight not watch loads of cutscenes one after another. I told her the DEVS locked it because some people cried about not being able to see the cutscenes. She said that was stupid because not everyone cares for story. I agreed.

    The Devs messed up on these two dungeons. The sad part is that it has to be a roulette. Which only verified that everything they make servers no purpose. Maybe instead of building new dungeons over and over. Build on top of the old ones by revamping them. How about changing those cutscenes into in game moments as we progress through the dungeon. Have the towers and explosions happen as we fight. Have a voice actor talk as we progress to the next adds. By the time we move to the next adds Cid could’ve been done talking.then you won’t miss a story.
    It sounds like your friend already wasn't enjoying the game even before she reached Castrum and Praetorium if you were having to listen to her complaints all the way from level 1 to level 50. Being unable to skip the cutscenes merely became the excuse to quit.

    This is a heavily story focused game. If someone doesn't care about the story, it's not the game for them. There are plenty of other games out there without a story focus, or with a story that they may enjoy more.
    And it's not sad that it has to be a roulette. It's a good thing that it's a roulette. Roulettes are totally optional and don't offer unique bonus rewards for participating. If you don't like the roulette, you have other ways of getting those same rewards.
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  9. #89
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    Ulala Ula
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    Shiva
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    Reaper Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by LalafellDown View Post
    The most upsetting part is she wanted to fight not watch loads of cutscenes one after another. I told her the DEVS locked it because some people cried about not being able to see the cutscenes. She said that was stupid because not everyone cares for story. I agreed.
    While its not perfect, its stil the best solution they wanted to do (as they wont make it a solo/4-man duty any time soon...)

    Yes not everyone cares for the story and my persolan though about that is, sry but its the wrong game then. But even if i take a more neutral stance - you can ignore he story and fight afterwards - ppl who do care about it will miss both as they try to watch it and miss all fights, get lost, etc...

    Imo they should have locked all doors in there so we have to kill all mobs but welp >_>



    And you dont need to do THIS roulett ever again, especially a new player gets such absurd exp that he'll outlevel the curret story by at least some levels.
    (which imo is a huge mistake as it leads ppl way too fast towards engame...)
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  10. #90
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    Fugu Barr
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    Exodus
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    Ninja Lv 100
    Now, if they'd just make it so you didn't have to suffer through the cutscenes if you've seen them already. In this mode you get grouped only with players who won't see them either.
    To reduce Q times for new players, offer an increased reward for experienced players if they choose to run it with new players and see the cutscenes again. Perhaps one extra tomestone if you do it the long way.
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