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    Billythepancake's Avatar
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    Evelynn Outreguerlain
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    Scholar Lv 80
    What are with these responses saying to "get rid of energy drain". You aren't just clowns, you're the entire circus. SCH flat out does not work if there isn't at least 1 DPS button tied to aetherflow, full stop end of discussion. If you don't like how that's tied to a few healing abilities as well, therefore forcing you to decide whether or not it's worth taking the risk of getting more DPS or holding your stacks for a heal, then don't play SCH. That little bit of risk/reward with energy drain is literally all they have left, and they had to beg for over a month to even have that. If AST truly feels better because it has more free healing, then just play AST.

    Should we get rid of GCD heals too? Because those also compete with DPS abilities. Of course not, while you should be minimizing the use of them there are times where you do absolutely need them.
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    Nethereal's Avatar
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    Deviously Enchanted
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    Sargatanas
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    White Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Limonia View Post
    That wouldn't be free dps though, because you would use it on cd for the dps, just like Assize, even if it were 100% overheal.
    Fair point it would have to be a 100 potency AoE on cast for it to be true free dps. Though if there's multiple targets I guess the case would still stand?


    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    What are with these responses saying to "get rid of energy drain". You aren't just clowns, you're the entire circus. SCH flat out does not work if there isn't at least 1 DPS button tied to aetherflow, full stop end of discussion. If you don't like how that's tied to a few healing abilities as well, therefore forcing you to decide whether or not it's worth taking the risk of getting more DPS or holding your stacks for a heal, then don't play SCH. That little bit of risk/reward with energy drain is literally all they have left, and they had to beg for over a month to even have that. If AST truly feels better because it has more free healing, then just play AST.

    Should we get rid of GCD heals too? Because those also compete with DPS abilities. Of course not, while you should be minimizing the use of them there are times where you do absolutely need them.
    I don't think anyone here is advocating for the deletion of ED, more so we're acknowledging that when you weren't punished for oGCD healing on SCH the trade off was you didn't have anything to use it on. The solution I thought of would fix both issues while keeping everything as close to the source material as possible while being flexible and retaining balance. SCH is the only healer that loses dps for using their healing oGCDs even when done properly. I can live with it but I also acknowledge it.
    I also don't think there's really much risk/reward once you've done a fight a few times unless someone makes a mistake. AST feels better because I'm not punished for oGCD healing but SCH is more aesthetically pleasing.

    Getting rid of GCD heals? I don't know about that one if you need to GCD heal then that means if you don't you're going to die which means less dps.
    I can see why you would think they're comparable since you'll always use aetherflow on a healing/support ability if you have it over letting someone die. The same is true for all the other healers the only difference is when they GCD or oGCD heal they don't permanently lose damage like SCH does by giving up an ED.
    SCH is unique in the fact they're the only healer that has a damaging oGCD(Star and Assize both have healing and damage put together) tied to their healing oGCD kit that forces you to choose between the two as such they have a unique problem or as you would say risk/reward. If you want a true comparison it would be having a card already drawn on AST, not using said card and then drawing another card. All the dps you would've gained from that card you just discarded is completely lost you'll never get it back. Or even better using Dissipation when you still have stacks of aetherflow, yikes.
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