Why don't I find a site on Internet that explains what items are for?

[Angelhearth]

It sounds like you're bringing experience of a different game and getting confused when this game doesn't meet your expectation of what it is supposed to be.

I think you should play and experience this game a lot first to understand what it offers before you dive into external resources. Those tools can't make sense if you don't have first hand experience of the game first.

The bringing a stack of 'chests' to an inn thing doesn't make sense in the context of this game.

I have played MMO's since the time of Meridian 58 (or was it 59) - since Internet became available, more or less - and in most games there are several ways to store your items. Normally you don't have to carry them around, but can use banks or, if you have a house, a chest or similar. This game has retainers (which I have 3 of), a sadel pack, and your own inventory. To have to subscribe to additional retainers to be able to store your gods seems a bit wrong to me (since they have to fill different roles, like selling stuff on the market (an auction house would be great) gather stuff, and be your personal inventory. SO, basically, why have they made storing items so crazy in this game? I know it's a different game, and that it's made by Japanese people, who might not have been brought up in MMO the way westerners have, but it just seems such a crazy way of doing things. But that was NOT how this discussion began, it began with there not being any explanation online, that I can easily find, that explains what a chest (in FFXIV) is for.

[Angelhearth]

What do you mean by 'chests'? You seem to refer to something with some specific functionality, but not having played exactly the same other games as you I have no idea what kind of items that might be.



Skins and other body parts are random drops from animals you kill. There is little information about this because there is very little to write about it. Kill animals and you may get skins, horns, chunks of meat, etc.
If you want to know exactly what animals drop a certain type of skin, or what can drop from a specific type of animal, then there are plenty of websites that will tell you about it - all just a google-search away.

In your real-life home, what do you use chests for? But that's the BIG problem. People not explaining things because they don't exists. Isn't that what a good site is for? Informing you of what is possible and not possible? The problem is that most random posts you find are several years old. You can't rely on old posts about a game that is continuously updated, can you?

[Krotoan]

I have played MMO's since the time of Meridian 58 (or was it 59) - since Internet became available, more or less - and in most games there are several ways to store your items. Normally you don't have to carry them around, but can use banks or, if you have a house, a chest or similar. This game has retainers (which I have 3 of), a sadel pack, and your own inventory. To have to subscribe to additional retainers to be able to store your gods seems a bit wrong to me (since they have to fill different roles, like selling stuff on the market (an auction house would be great) gather stuff, and be your personal inventory. SO, basically, why have they made storing items so crazy in this game? I know it's a different game, and that it's made by Japanese people, who might not have been brought up in MMO the way westerners have, but it just seems such a crazy way of doing things. But that was NOT how this discussion began, it began with there not being any explanation online, that I can easily find, that explains what a chest (in FFXIV) is for.

Retainers used to be sort of a manageable NPC. You gave them stuff to be in their inventory which they could then go sell in a giant marketplace you actually had to visit with your character to buy from. There were HUNDREDS of peoples retainers standing in a giant hall and you had to check each one to buy stuff from people.

Luckily this was revamped to what we have now where there's a GUI (the marketboard) and they also added some fun functions to the retainers like giving them jobs and "ventures" or quests to go on which might reward you with random items. However the old system is STILL THERE, buried under what they've layed on top. This is why our storage is linked to them. It's not a great reason and surely could use some redoing, but that's why.

What you can assume when looking up housing items is that if it doesn't SAY it does something in the description, it's decorative. Item descriptions are very specific about what they do and just for future information no item you can buy for your house/apartment/FCroom adds storage space.

[Valkyrie_Lenneth]

To add to that, you get something like 550 inventory slots, plus over 400 armory chest slots. If you buy and apartment or house, you have the storeroom, which can hold as many housing items as can be placed inside or outside depending on size.

If you are hoarding everything, don't. There's no need.


There isn't much online because for the most part, any time you encounter a new thing in game, a tutorial pops up. If there's no tutorial, it doesn't do anything. And if you turned them off, well that's not on the game.

[Barraind]

People not explaining things because they don't exists. Isn't that what a good site is for?

I was following you until this, at which point I couldnt anymore.

Unless its a staple of the MMO community, or a massively noteworthy feature (and even then, Guild Wars has perhaps the single best support wiki of any MMO, and im not sure it tells you anywhere that you cant jump. you just... cant jump and you can play the game and know you cant jump), people cant tell you its not in a game

[Rufalus]

Oh I see, so you were looking for information on item storage. Yeah once you are familiar with the names this game uses for things then you know what search terms to use for information.

We have the dresser (inn rooms) which stores equipment only. Also the armoire (inn and player housing) stores certain specialty equipment. Icons along the top edge of equipment tooltip window let you know if the item can be stored in those chests or customised with your fc crest (guild emblem).

For general item storage, yes hiring retainers is the answer. If you join an fc (guild) you also have access to the fc chest (in most cities and player housing) which is shared storage between the fc member with up to 5 pages to unlock based on fc rank.

[Angelhearth]

I was following you until this, at which point I couldnt anymore.

Unless its a staple of the MMO community, or a massively noteworthy feature (and even then, Guild Wars has perhaps the single best support wiki of any MMO, and im not sure it tells you anywhere that you cant jump. you just... cant jump and you can play the game and know you cant jump), people cant tell you its not in a game

Not telling you that skinning isn't a profession? Well, anyway, I got the explanation I needed, and this forum is a good way to get the info, although it would be easier to be able to search it up. Like a place that lists all professions (without all the extra info, which can be placed in separate chapters), what they can do, and that's it, no one can skin, great, saw it at once. In stead you get sent to places with very good explanations, but where the basics are hidden away so you have to do an hours reading just to get things cleared up.

[Angelhearth]

Oh I see, so you were looking for information on item storage. Yeah once you are familiar with the names this game uses for things then you know what search terms to use for information.

We have the dresser (inn rooms) which stores equipment only. Also the armoire (inn and player housing) stores certain specialty equipment. Icons along the top edge of equipment tooltip window let you know if the item can be stored in those chests or customised with your fc crest (guild emblem).

For general item storage, yes hiring retainers is the answer. If you join an fc (guild) you also have access to the fc chest (in most cities and player housing) which is shared storage between the fc member with up to 5 pages to unlock based on fc rank.

What does the icons mean? A shield of sorts, with a cross, something that looks like a basket, and something I can't make out (armoire?)

[Iscah]

But that was NOT how this discussion began, it began with there not being any explanation online, that I can easily find, that explains what a chest (in FFXIV) is for.

I think you're going about things the wrong way here.

You're starting from the assumption that "chests" must exist, therefore you go looking for information about chests and assume that an item called a chest must be the inventory solution you are searching for. If you can't find any information about chests (or skinning monsters), it must be that nobody is explaining how to use them.

That's not actually how it works.

We don't have storage chests, therefore there is no reason for anyone to explain how to use them. And people aren't going to provide detailed information about what features are not in a game, or not by a particular term, because that list could be infinite. No wiki or item database is going to explain where you can get something that isn't there.

If you've bought a "stack of three chests" then you must have Splintered Chests. It's a crafting ingredient for a housing item.

Inventory is, basically, a notorious mess here. They made deeply-embedded poor decisions when setting up their database that have become a problem as the game increased. They can't expand the main inventory so keep working around it with segmented things.

Your main inventory, retainers and saddlebag are the entirety of standard item storage available to you. You also have the glamour dresser at the inn for storing gear you only want to keep for its appearance, and if you have a house or apartment then there is a furniture storeroom but it can't be used for other types of items. If you're in an FC there is a shared company chest.

(And no, if you ever see it and get excited, the "storage bench" furniture item is not actually storage. That's just flavour text.)

[Angelhearth]

I think you're going about things the wrong way here.

You're starting from the assumption that "chests" must exist, therefore you go looking for information about chests and assume that an item called a chest must be the inventory solution you are searching for. If you can't find any information about chests (or skinning monsters), it must be that nobody is explaining how to use them.

That's not actually how it works.

We don't have storage chests, therefore there is no reason for anyone to explain how to use them. And people aren't going to provide detailed information about what features are not in a game, or not by a particular term, because that list could be infinite. No wiki or item database is going to explain where you can get something that isn't there.

If you've bought a "stack of three chests" then you must have Splintered Chests. It's a crafting ingredient for a housing item.

Inventory is, basically, a notorious mess here. They made deeply-embedded poor decisions when setting up their database that have become a problem as the game increased. They can't expand the main inventory so keep working around it with segmented things.

Your main inventory, retainers and saddlebag are the entirety of standard item storage available to you. You also have the glamour dresser at the inn for storing gear you only want to keep for its appearance, and if you have a house or apartment then there is a furniture storeroom but it can't be used for other types of items. If you're in an FC there is a shared company chest.

(And no, if you ever see it and get excited, the "storage bench" furniture item is not actually storage. That's just flavour text.)

I get it that I don't get it, but you don't get it either. I don't know of any game, and I've played a few, that has chests that don't have storage space in them. It's just so far out there that I couldn't imagine it being possible. Same with skinning. In most games I know of there's a skinning profession, so I couldn't imagine it not being a thing in this game, although when you see how all mobs you slay are auto-looted and they disappear afterwards, that would explain why it isn't possible. Also, when it comes to skinning, I get why the cost is high for hides. It took me (with a lvl 44 Pal) a very good half an hour to collect 100 hides from lvl 20-21 mobs, even though I ran around in a circle and basically slayed 1 or 2 every 30 seconds (or less). With a miner about the same level it took me 10-15 minutes to collect 100 alumen for my leather-worker to make leather with.