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  1. #51
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Just bringing this back up, as its good for newer people to read.
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  2. #52
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    Leidolf's Avatar
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    Ul'dah
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    Leidolf Kvasir
    World
    Diabolos
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Useful. I forgot Freeze generates Umbral Hearts once you got a certain trait so it can be used to lead into Ice Phase doing an AoE situation.
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  3. #53
    Player Seraphor's Avatar
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    Seraphor Vhinasch
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    Zodiark
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Wasn't it calculated that between levels 35 snd 50 ish, for BLM, the highest potency AoE rotation is just Freeze spam?
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  4. #54
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    There was one thing that I learned recently that surprised me actually

    Red Mage AoE is actually just as strong as Summoner AoE. I got a chance to test against a similarly geared Summoner and when I was looking the AoE portions of the combat, I would notice that in the first phase (when SMN would use the Garuda Enkindle) he would spike significantly higher than RDM. But the reverse was also true. On the next phase during the next 10 mob spread, the RDM Enchanted Moulinette phase would just slaughter the SMN AoE, and as I was looking at this Dungeon log, this was pretty significant all the way through.

    Which does seem to be the likely reason Red Mage can beat Summoner sometimes significantly in certain dungeons.
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  5. #55
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    dangadget's Avatar
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    Lysander Deschaine
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 80
    Bumping for the entire weeks worth of leveling roulletes I've endured where lv70+ melee DPS can't seem to do AoEs
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  6. #56
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    Akiudo's Avatar
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    Character
    Narumi Akiudo
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    Alpha
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    Bard Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by dangadget View Post
    Bumping for the entire weeks worth of leveling roulletes I've endured where lv70+ melee DPS can't seem to do AoEs
    allways lovely to tank 7+ enemies at once and seeing half the group do their single target rotation, badly at that
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  7. #57
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    dangadget's Avatar
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    Lysander Deschaine
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    Coeurl
    Main Class
    Miner Lv 80
    Especially when you were specifically asked to pull big
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  8. #58
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    Jirah's Avatar
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    Jira Dal'riata
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    Ultros
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    Bard Lv 100
    The only changes I loved about MCH was its AOE overhaul. The satisfying sound of Auto-Crossbow and Bioblasting *****es and spamming Ricochet are delightful. Flamethrower is a skill most Rookie MCH tend to forget and that’s on SE for making it inconsequential in its heat gage. I pray they don’t remove flamethrower instead of incorporating it in MCH tool kit. Also no Aoe Wildfire?(Wildblast/Chaoticfire) lame....and the pointless eye candy robot does what it always does. Bugger all and look out of place, least Bishop casted invul down to entire mobs and exploded Queen is just for looks

    GNB Aoe is downright boring as all hell but idk how other tanks compare or maybe I’m used to DPS too much
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  9. #59
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    Numenor1379's Avatar
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    Character
    Lucius Magnus
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Black Mage Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Wasn't it calculated that between levels 35 snd 50 ish, for BLM, the highest potency AoE rotation is just Freeze spam?
    Yes, Freeze spam is optimal from 35 to 50.
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  10. #60
    Player
    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
    World
    Gilgamesh
    Main Class
    Summoner Lv 90
    Made some changes to my initial posts to combine information from later ones.
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