Shadowbringers starting to feel like a budget expansion

[Iscah]

The forums exists as an official and more reliable way for the dev team to receive feedback of the game. We are a small majority of the playerbase but our opinions here have power to change the course of the game. Word of mouth just like what you said in "From what I've heard" is very unreliable as feedback, because you're pretty much talking for someone else.

I think you're overestimating the "power level" of the forum. Having an official forum for fans to gather and discuss the game isn't necessarily an invitation for those fans to be the only ones whose opinions will be listened to - or that SE will have to do whatever the forum posters want if they repeat it enough.

I just wonder, what if people stop complaining about lack of content comparing to previous expansion on forums, like white knights want and just go directly into media, making reviews, video on YouTube, talking about it on Twitter. This way more people who don't even visit forums will see, that not everything is sunshines and rainbows in this game and it has some problems.This will hit popularity and reputation of the game alot more, than just sharing concerns on the forum.
Maybe this will be more efficient way talking with SE directly, not to the people who don't even want to play the game they paying for, but rather go to the forum trying to explain that less dungeons are better for everyone.

Am I understanding right that your plan to "improve" the game is to:

1. Complain about it on social media to damage its reputation and subscription numbers

2. Wait for Square Enix to fix the problems that the game is now known for having, while receiving less money

3. Hope that the damage previously done on social media can be undone - by SE spending more money promoting the improvements?

Were you planning to give them positive press at the end of this process or do you move onto the next thing you're not happy with, further grinding the game's "popularity and reputation" into the dirt in the name of allegedly making it better?

I'm not happy about the reduced number of dungeons either, but that sounds like an utterly counterproductive way of responding to it.

Also, ultimately, the overall number of dungeons is still going up. You say you've got multiple alts covering different classes - I do that, and it feels like there is never enough time to raise them all. I don't personally need more new content at this rate because I'm still bringing at least five characters through old content. I certainly don't need a relic grind to fill my game time, because I don't seem to have enough as it is.

Call me a white knight if you want. But the game as it is is highly enjoyable to me, even if it could be improved, and this relentless "what we have isn't good enough" is tiring. It could always be better somehow, and people are allowed to enjoy the game as it is.

And on being told to go do something else if you don't enjoy the game... I don't see the problem with saying that. Different games appeal to different people, so find one that you enjoy playing rather than sticking around one that you don't like, hoping that they'll change it to suit your preferences. There have been plenty of games I tried and then dropped because I didn't enjoy them.

[yukiiyuki]

Am I understanding right that your plan to "improve" the game is to:

1. Complain about it on social media to damage its reputation and subscription numbers

2. Wait for Square Enix to fix the problems that the game is now known for having, while receiving less money

3. Hope that the damage previously done on social media can be undone - by SE spending more money promoting the improvements?

If I didnt care about the game I wouldn't even post here and just move to play something else, like most people do. It was more message to white knights, that maybe we're discussing problems on forum is better idea than doing exactly same outside, damaging reputation of the game.
It's good that you still enjoying almost everything that game gives you, but not everyone should have same mind as you, so it would be nice to have topics like these, without every 3 posts trying to force opinion that everything is perfect. If you want somehow support good sides that you like, better just go and create a new topic where you could discuss what you like with same minded people.
Telling people to unsub is not going to help company anyhow, it's more like creating safespace where you couldn't see or hear any negative thing about thing you love.
And yes, people are not telling SE to catch a stars from the sky, they want at least same amount of content they had before, because content in this game is very short living and its not very healthy for an MMORPG.