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  1. #201
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    Raiya Li
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    Ragnarok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kanitezz View Post
    This actually makes me want to laugh out loud. I enjoyed the actual story aspect of this first step. Like REALLY enjoyed. Running through that instance, the battle, the cutscenes (Some more than others), and I am very satisfied. But I should've expected to see a lot of people on the forums not liking it, actually severely hating it. But its just proof that people on both ends of the spectrum do exist.
    Think the problem is they want something to do but the relic in term's of content they were expecting more from and are disappointed. Personally I'm fine with the relic being this easy it means I'm able to farm up a decent 485 weapon for all my jobs and I'm capped out at 80 everything. Honestly the requirement just for poetics is actually nice as I'm able to farm Eureka and try and finish all those relics while farming for the new base ones. Honestly the only thing I feel disapointed on is that the dyable AF is locked behind an extreme trial but I'm suspecting that normal players like myself will be able to get an upgradable version of the existing AF in 5.3.
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    Last edited by Raiya; 04-08-2020 at 06:45 PM.

  2. #202
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    Tezu Silvin
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    Leviathan
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    Culinarian Lv 80
    OK so when I first went though the entire quest line, I was quite happy with the story cutscenes and the instance boss with all the scions friends was cool ngl. A first choice of relic weapon is given as a reward is pretty great. Just when I was wondering what content do I go through for alt job's weapon, all I got was "go farm poetics".

    oh.... that's it.....

    Another thing that is gonna get some people mad is probably the dyeable af gear. I was surprised to find out we have another extreme fight so soon, then I saw you need to do it to get dyeable af gear.... Not a fan, but I will do it to get enough totems for at least one job I think even though this pretty much puts a bad taste in my mouth.
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  3. #203
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    Purgatori Sakkara
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    Sophia
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    Dark Knight Lv 92
    A lot of people defending this content are entirely missing the point: nobody (or almost nobody) is taking issue with this content being 'easy,' or featuring copious amounts of cutscenes, story, and lore (I'm a lore fiend myself, so I'm at least happy with that part of the offering). Rather, it's that a lot of us enjoy combat-oriented combat, but we're not up to par/interested in Savage & Ex. For us, ShB has offered less content than ever before, with the reduction in newly-released dungeons, and the omission of a new deep dungeon, so we're disappointed that this is a very flimsy offering as far as combat content we can actually sink our teeth into.

    Nor are, I should point out, looking back at 1.0 & 2.0 relics with 'rose-coloured glasses.' Both of those were terminally boring. Eureka, on the other hand, held some promise, but the fact that it wasn't soloable, or even DF-able, meant that there was no real guarantee that you could comfortably log on for an hour, get a good bit of grinding in, and make some progress towards your goal(s). In fact, there is very little in the game that caters to that play style other than maybe the roulettes (unless you end up spending more than half that time in a queue).

    Why is this game, unlike games such as ESO and BDO, so averse to a casual grind that subscribers can chip away at over the course of an expansion cycle? I really don't get it, and am completely perplexed that not only has SE missed multiple opportunities to cater to what must be a substantial proportion of their customer base, but have only sought to further alienate them with the latest expansion. Were it not for the first-rate lore, storyline, and characters, I would be totally outso.
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  4. #204
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    Hanayumi's Avatar
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    Kara Dusksinger
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    Mateus
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    Scholar Lv 100
    This was just an introduction to the story, real grind isn't till 5.35 with the new exploration area, eureka 2.0. Hopefully well see some nice weapon designs these are pretty decent but prolly wont be the final model, wasnt too happy with final product for eureka.
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  5. #205
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    LaylaTsarra's Avatar
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    Y'sira Kurai
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    Halicarnassus
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    Conjurer Lv 100
    I personally enjoyed the grind in Eureka and the special zones. I have to hope although this one is short and poetics seem to be the currency at the moment that we won't need to be farming tome stones and running old content for the succeeding patches.

    And as a side note I will say that hunts yesterday were a real circus with all the people showing up for them giving the amount of tome stones they reward.
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    Last edited by LaylaTsarra; 04-08-2020 at 06:34 PM.

  6. #206
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    Kalise Relanah
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    Cerberus
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    Gunbreaker Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Actually the Resistance paid for it. She's supplying materiel to the Resistance, and presumably charging them. We were just there to collect it.
    Still doesn't sound like Rowena.

    Heck, she even charged us for materials for the weapon we were designing at her behest, for her to sell (The Anima weapon)

    Asking for 1000 poetics for additional weapons that the Resistance is also paying for, sound much more her style.

    At the very least, I expected her to be like "Oh, by the way, you wouldn't mind going to [Insert arse-end of nowhere location] in order to pick up [Completely obscure artifact that she happened to know about] in exchange for the dust, since it wasn't obtained for free!"

    Even more so if she found out that we had been to an entirely different world and thus would have access to priceless trinkets and artifacts given that literally no-one else on the planet would be able to obtain them...
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  7. #207
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    Cierre Mhakaracca
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    Shiva
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    Pugilist Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Still doesn't sound like Rowena.

    Heck, she even charged us for materials for the weapon we were designing at her behest, for her to sell (The Anima weapon)

    Asking for 1000 poetics for additional weapons that the Resistance is also paying for, sound much more her style.

    At the very least, I expected her to be like "Oh, by the way, you wouldn't mind going to [Insert arse-end of nowhere location] in order to pick up [Completely obscure artifact that she happened to know about] in exchange for the dust, since it wasn't obtained for free!"

    Even more so if she found out that we had been to an entirely different world and thus would have access to priceless trinkets and artifacts given that literally no-one else on the planet would be able to obtain them...
    That would require the writers to understand the concept of consistent characters, which they dont. FFXIV doesnt have that level of consistent writing, thats only in actual books.
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  8. #208
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    Lersayil's Avatar
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    Lhei Amariyo
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    Lich
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    Samurai Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Kalise View Post
    Still doesn't sound like Rowena.

    Heck, she even charged us for materials for the weapon we were designing at her behest, for her to sell (The Anima weapon)

    Asking for 1000 poetics for additional weapons that the Resistance is also paying for, sound much more her style.

    At the very least, I expected her to be like "Oh, by the way, you wouldn't mind going to [Insert arse-end of nowhere location] in order to pick up [Completely obscure artifact that she happened to know about] in exchange for the dust, since it wasn't obtained for free!"

    Even more so if she found out that we had been to an entirely different world and thus would have access to priceless trinkets and artifacts given that literally no-one else on the planet would be able to obtain them...
    I can see her logic being that of a drug dealer here. The first hit is "free" (for us), gets us hooked, then the rest comes at a premium... and she knows us too well to think that we won't come back for more.
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  9. #209
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    Elise Hamilton
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    Balmung
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    Arcanist Lv 100
    Need some Black Desert Online style cashshop to fund more content lol. Mogstations non dyeable outfits aren't generating enough money .
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  10. #210
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    Ifalna Sha'yoko
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    Cerberus
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    As much as I hated Anemos and Pagos, they at least gave me a reason to play, besides doing relevant lockouts and capping currencies.
    I am not so addicted that I want to gobble down everything they throw at me, thanks.
    I take short content that is FUN over grinds that I loathe ANY DAY OF THE WEEK!

    Tons of other games out there to spend ones free time with, I don't need to be "forced / coerced" to log in every day to think I get my 12€'s worth of entertainment.
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