New Relic weapon quest - are we down to 1 hour content already?

[purgatori]

A lot of people defending this content are entirely missing the point: nobody (or almost nobody) is taking issue with this content being 'easy,' or featuring copious amounts of cutscenes, story, and lore (I'm a lore fiend myself, so I'm at least happy with that part of the offering). Rather, it's that a lot of us enjoy combat-oriented combat, but we're not up to par/interested in Savage & Ex. For us, ShB has offered less content than ever before, with the reduction in newly-released dungeons, and the omission of a new deep dungeon, so we're disappointed that this is a very flimsy offering as far as combat content we can actually sink our teeth into.

Nor are, I should point out, looking back at 1.0 & 2.0 relics with 'rose-coloured glasses.' Both of those were terminally boring. Eureka, on the other hand, held some promise, but the fact that it wasn't soloable, or even DF-able, meant that there was no real guarantee that you could comfortably log on for an hour, get a good bit of grinding in, and make some progress towards your goal(s). In fact, there is very little in the game that caters to that play style other than maybe the roulettes (unless you end up spending more than half that time in a queue).

Why is this game, unlike games such as ESO and BDO, so averse to a casual grind that subscribers can chip away at over the course of an expansion cycle? I really don't get it, and am completely perplexed that not only has SE missed multiple opportunities to cater to what must be a substantial proportion of their customer base, but have only sought to further alienate them with the latest expansion. Were it not for the first-rate lore, storyline, and characters, I would be totally outso.

[Reinha]

Why is this game, unlike games such as ESO and BDO, so averse to a casual grind that subscribers can chip away at over the course of an expansion cycle?

We did get shared fates. Many of the people who claim to prefer Eureka still haven't finished those even though they offer similar rewards and gameplay as Anemos.

[Sesera]

We did get shared fates. Many of the people who claim to prefer Eureka still haven't finished those even though they offer similar rewards and gameplay as Anemos.

Eureka wasn't fun because we were doing fate but because you were playing with people, helping each other and so on.

Sorry but doing fates alone with my chocobo and actually socializing with people while spawning fate/chilling and do fates together is very different.

[Reinha]

Eureka wasn't fun because we were doing fate but because you were playing with people, helping each other and so on.

Sorry but doing fates alone with my chocobo and actually socializing with people while spawning fate/chilling and do fates together is very different.

Fate parties are a thing outside Eureka as well. I saw many party requests in the field zones when shared fates were first released. Those who actually like the content played through it.

However, if it's very hard to get a group of people nowadays to do fates together even though lots of people still haven't finished collecting the rewards... that kind of proves what a flop Eureka would have been if relics had not been locked behind it.

[Granyala]

However, if it's very hard to get a group of people nowadays to do fates together even though lots of people still haven't finished collecting the rewards... that kind of proves what a flop Eureka would have been if relics had not been locked behind it.

Hell, my group and I said "screw it" during pagos, even WITH the relic.
Pagos (pre nerf) traumatized us enough to never attempt it again, even after it was Anemos 2.0.