New Relic weapon quest - are we down to 1 hour content already?

[Limonia]

But at this point people already have Crystarium weapons and ES weapons which already invalidate those even more, and the former is even easier to get than the Ruby EX one.

I can't do much PF content as I often can't sit there and play without pause for multiple hours anymore, so I can't do a lot of extreme or savage content, only very little here and there. So I haven't done this savage tier yet and also haven't cleared Ruby ex often enough to get my weapon. For my main job I got the Crystarium weapon instead (...how exactly do other casual players have multiple of those already?).
But there are so many players who also don't do savage, but do ex content enough to get those weapons. If you just got some of them they're not worth much anymore, even though you had to put much more work into getting them.
I mean, for me it doesn't matter because I can slowly farm some poetics to get the relics instead. But for players who farmed Ruby Weapon for the weapons it's kind of stupid. The relics often had the same ilvl as the ex trial, but you at least had to put some time or effort into getting them.

[Niyuka]

I just realized, this patch follows the current trend of reducing playtime. Ruby Ex requires more time than the Relic by a substantial amount. By devalueing it immediately while its still current content, the actual relevant progression content goes down by another boss, which seems to be the general aim of SE (minimizing gameplay time).
Its a weird strategy that makes no sense to anybody, but they HAVE been consistent with it for half a year now, so for whatever reason, maybe they want us to play significantly less?

[RocciaSolida]

I agree with everything you posted and I'd also like to add that the idea of simply buying mats with Poetics (again, SE, again?) to get other relics after your first one is so incredibly dull and annoying.
Can we stop with this Poetics thing now? It's been going on for too long

[Sesera]

...why do people ignore the EX-trial that we got with this quest-chain to unlock the armor? That should keep one busy for more than an hour, right...?

If you care about doing Ex and want to do the same thing 20 times yes there is something to do I guess.

[Barraind]

Didn't touch Eureka past an hour because it was immediately uninteresting and off-putting

It was at least something you could spend a lot of time doing for rewards.

We BADLY needed that in 5.05, its even worse in 5.25.

It was flawed, but they put a lot of work into fixing it up over Pyros and Hydatos, only to throw it all away for ...this? I'm baffled.

Basically this.

I didnt want to "have" to grind as much as Eureka needed in the Anemos/Pagos days, but having the option to do even the Hydatos grind for some sort of tangible reward is sorely needed.

If this is the content they're killing off other content for, they need to find competent non-Japanese designers or actually have a budget.

Do people not remember Zenith weapons? Awoken weapons?

Zenith weapons came out in the 2.1 patch. By the 2.5 patch cycle, we were on Novus weapons.

Anima weapons came out in the 3.15 quest, and required either a fully completed Zodiac or a LOT of work per weapon. By the 3.25 patch cycle, we were on Hyperconductive weapons.

Then last expansion, in 5.25, we had Eureka.



This is significantly less content than any of those.

the .25 step should be the latest in an expansion life you have the grindy bits start (and it should really be the .15 patch if not .05), especially when you have removed the other grindy bits.

Time to farm more poetics!

I don't want to farm more poetics

I end up capping them 2-3 times a week just doing 1-2 roulettes a day, 1k is more or less nothing based on the cost of umbrite

I'm glad I have something to spend it on besides seeds.

[MartaDemireux]

Was really kind of hoping for a grind. Between my working-from-home-quarantine easily facilitating grinds/mindless activities, a potentially delayed shipment for FFVIIR, and my 11 day vacation starting next week (requested it months ago ugh) right in the middle of the quarantine... I have a lot of time on my hands.

That said, I guess I can always go to Diadem...

[RosalindDex]

There's been quite a lot of talk about how you could skip the first step of HW relic and this is nothing new.
Except, those people are wrong. You could skip the first quest of anima (Soul without Life) and avoid the FATE farm, but that came in the same patch as the next two quest steps (all 3.15). That is the dungeon crawl (Toughening Up), and the item farm (Coming into It's Own) that was infamous for needing 400+ Alex tokens. So you could skip a first quest, but you still had a fair bit more for that first step to do after until you got that patch's relic content done (and the linked Animaniac achievement).

It's not a fair comparison, because this is the entirety of the patch's relic content, the story duty or 1,000 poetics is the entirety of it.
It's ridiculous, and a real let down.

[Jandor]

Patch they specifically said was going to be short turned out to be short in the end.

The horror!

Short would be ok, this is tiny though. The solo instance was cool and all, but after doing it and unlocking Gerolt I had hold of 3 relic weapons in about 5 minutes.

[LittleImp]

Consume, do not criticize.

Imagine re-subbing just to get the relic, and essentially paying 1 dollar per minute of content xD.

[YISUG]

as someone who watched the LL , i knew what we were getting