


Relic was always the grind, you had options if you wanted less grind ... its called tome/trial weapon. Half the world is under quarantine and we get our first ever non grind relic?Ugh, the countless crying in this thread gives me a headache. You have people who want it less grindy and then you have people who want it grindy. You just can't appease everyone. Of course, you have people who don't understand this because they are to self-centered which leads to these threads - lots of them.




I've always said they really need to release their relics MUCH earlier than they do.
ARR had it at 2.0 and it gave fall back content if you were bored.
This current halfway through an expansion life cycle content is a really bad idea IMHO.
How about neither extreme? It shouldn't be one step only and it shouldn't require 100 hours to complete. A nice middle ground isn't unrealistic.Ugh, the countless crying in this thread gives me a headache. You have people who want it less grindy and then you have people who want it grindy. You just can't appease everyone. Of course, you have people who don't understand this because they are to self-centered which leads to these threads - lots of them.
Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]
I have never been this disappointed on a patch day. Especially when I actually have the tone to sink my teeth into content and we get this garbage. Free relics for everyone on like 45 minutes? I’d rather do another Zeta than this crap. I’ve been sinking all my poetics into animal weapons for years now and have finished all but 2 of them and now I get to grind the same content for this? The Skysteel tools are a joke as well. Free relics for anyone who happens to acquire poetics or yellow scripts? What’s the point of doing any of this? No accomplishment, no pride, nothing special at all. I’ll be unsubbing for the first time since 2014 to play ffvii remake. This is a terrible sign of things to come. Dumbing everything down so everyone gets a prize.



i literaly hate the direction of this expansion so far, basically they are just going to the other extreme like there is no tomorrow, the old relics are to much grind? ok lets just make it 1 hour instead like WTH, we are getting way less content for the same price, the skill ceiling of this expansion has been lower to the ground and all the sacrified developed content has been translated to slightly more fancy custences you watch 1 time and never again? (for me at least), whats the freaking point to encourage you playerbase to play your game the lest amount of time as posible? now we have months of doing literaly nothing until the next nier raid wich is ridiculous and not everyone like doing crafting or tribes that just take what? 10 min per day, the old relics didn't even consume much time and you can even get 2-3 before the next step was released with the most casual schelude.





They separated FATE farming from relics this expansion. We have now been able to farm FATES for materials, minions, music and mount speed since the beginning of the expansion. The early relics are instead delivered with a story and a battle and some tomes, as they should be. I love it! Anemos was horrible in comparison.
And we also got an extra trial to farm glamour from. I consider that plus relic tools a worthy replacement for a second dungeon which doesn't offer any meaningful rewards.
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MSQ
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They did tell us beforehand that this first step was going to be mainly story driven and not much work would be needed, and that enhancing the weapons in the next steps will take more work. I am also pretty excited to get started on the crafting and gathering relic tools. That is pretty awesome to me, that they are finally adding stuff to gathering and crafting and giving us some love and things to do.

Patch they specifically said was going to be short turned out to be short in the end.
The horror!


Hmmm...
This is seeming like less of a "lack of content" thread and more of a "I'm HARDCOEEERE! Damn welfare relickkkzz!" Thread.



I think for the first part of the questline it was totally fine. The cutscenes and lore were interesting. And that you can get the first weapon easily is fine for me too. I'm sure it'll get grindy enough in the upcoming steps.
The only thing I don't like is that they kind of invalidate the Ruby ex weapons.
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