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    Quote Originally Posted by MagicPeanut View Post
    They probably haven’t added these because they want it to be special for these characters, maybe for lore reasons. Like, Zenos is literally a main antagonist. It would be stupid if they allowed players to use his hairstyle. Sometimes, the story should come first. Players don’t have to have everything.

    More options from other FF games would be a good idea though. I’ve wanted Yuna’s hairstyle for a while now. Lumina’s would be so cool too.
    I don't necessarily disagree (and I'm tired of the constant hair complaints tbh) but it's hardly fair to describe this as stupid. Unless there are hair police going around Hydaelyn stopping the hot polloi from copying hairstyles of the rich and famous, there is not really any sensible, believable reason why someone can't have - for example - Minfilia's hairstyle. They'd just need to grow their hair and buy some ribbons
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elladie View Post
    I don't necessarily disagree (and I'm tired of the constant hair complaints tbh) but it's hardly fair to describe this as stupid. Unless there are hair police going around Hydaelyn stopping the hot polloi from copying hairstyles of the rich and famous, there is not really any sensible, believable reason why someone can't have - for example - Minfilia's hairstyle. They'd just need to grow their hair and buy some ribbons
    I look at it like this- if NPC's can have long hairstyles that look good- so can players. SE threw players a bone with the dancer hairstyle but it's still lacking, especially with the weird part in the middle- if there was a toggle to have bangs or better yet, have the same hair as major NPC's like Gaia or Minfilia or Yugiri, Estinien or Fran
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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    I look at it like this- if NPC's can have long hairstyles that look good- so can players. SE threw players a bone with the dancer hairstyle but it's still lacking, especially with the weird part in the middle- if there was a toggle to have bangs or better yet, have the same hair as major NPC's like Gaia or Minfilia or Yugiri, Estinien or Fran
    NPCs aren't players though.

    As in, our emotes, battle actions, ect. Those are fine tuned for them exclusively and are tweaked for cutscenes. They also add a uniqueness factor that goes beyond their clothing.

    Clipping is a major issue, but for the sake of quality in presentation, I believe they don't give us what some NPCs have because they're trying to minimize it as much as possible. The engine doesn't work like other games where hair physics go over collars and can lay flat. Some battle animations might have said hair looking like an MMD video or going through our stomach.
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    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    NPCs aren't players though.

    As in, our emotes, battle actions, ect. Those are fine tuned for them exclusively and are tweaked for cutscenes. They also add a uniqueness factor that goes beyond their clothing.

    Clipping is a major issue, but for the sake of quality in presentation, I believe they don't give us what some NPCs have because they're trying to minimize it as much as possible. The engine doesn't work like other games where hair physics go over collars and can lay flat. Some battle animations might have said hair looking like an MMD video or going through our stomach.
    Giving NPC's a better design shows the possibility of what players could have. Take a look at the Viera or Gaia then take another look Elezen or Hyur. The lack of detailing in the older races VS the new, even on NPC's. It is aspiring & shouldn't be shrugged off, but requested. Yes, you should have some tweaks to your Roe, like a natural flush or better lip colouring, even highlights to bring out the facial structure better.

    Clipping can't be used as an excuse anymore when everything clips everything- tails clip coats, armor isn't made specifically to match each race- Horns clip head pieces, Armors clip weapons, Even Ryne & Gaia have clipping issues so if it was really an issue it would have been fixed & avoided as best as possible.
    Most people whom I've discussed long hair with have said "I'll deal with the clipping, I just want longer/better hairstyles" And someone responded to me, it made me chuckle but basically "Someone requests new hairstyles? Yoshi P walks out of room & pretends he didn't see it."
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    Last edited by HeyMcFly; 04-06-2020 at 12:22 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HeyMcFly View Post
    Most people whom I've discussed long hair with have said "I'll deal with the clipping, I just want longer/better hairstyles" And someone responded to me, it made me chuckle but basically "Someone requests new hairstyles? Yoshi P walks out of room & pretends he didn't see it."
    You missed where I said minimizing. They know it exists, but trying to minimize it is what developers do. See every game pre 2012 where every female had short hair or buns. Some games managed it, but not all. And it's something that persists in thousands of games today. They are essentially taking the path of least resistance and given how some staff are juggling multiple roles on a tight rope called a schedule, I think what they offer with short hair is more than fine.
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    Quote Originally Posted by iVolke View Post
    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gula View Post
    You missed where I said minimizing. They know it exists, but trying to minimize it is what developers do. See every game pre 2012 where every female had short hair or buns. Some games managed it, but not all. And it's something that persists in thousands of games today. They are essentially taking the path of least resistance and given how some staff are juggling multiple roles on a tight rope called a schedule, I think what they offer with short hair is more than fine.
    That's fine that you think what is offered in short hair is more than fine- I don't; which is why I've made this post- for people who also agree & would like to see less NPC exclusive hairstyles
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    Last edited by HeyMcFly; 04-07-2020 at 11:38 PM.