Why is Astrologian so misunderstood, even sometimes by other healers?

[RoseyDevlin]

Everyones knows Ast nocturnal paired with whm can be very shitty, I get paired with whm a lot aswell. I just did ruby ex as ast noct paired with whm and mine let phase 2 her add team die. Whm supposedly did 28% while I healed 60%. The first phase I barely noticed but once both healers need to have different teams will you start noticing faults. And this is bad for ast since our noct stance takes a lot of mp that trying to constantly heal other peoples mistakes makes my mp drain too much. Ast still seriously needs a second mp gain for sure. I feel like next run il go back to scholar since I can get my mp back during those bad situations. Hard to go ast if you cant trust co healer healing capabilites...

[Brandedblade]

Everyones knows Ast nocturnal paired with whm can be very shitty, I get paired with whm a lot aswell. I just did ruby ex as ast noct paired with whm and mine let phase 2 her add team die. Whm supposedly did 28% while I healed 60%. The first phase I barely noticed but once both healers need to have different teams will you start noticing faults. And this is bad for ast since our noct stance takes a lot of mp that trying to constantly heal other peoples mistakes makes my mp drain too much. Ast still seriously needs a second mp gain for sure. I feel like next run il go back to scholar since I can get my mp back during those bad situations. Hard to go ast if you cant trust co healer healing capabilites...

I hate to say this, but this is more of a failure on the whm then it is on you. Ideally healing is a team effort.

[ShivahnuAhnJura]

I love pairing with White Mages and getting a stronger Aspected Helios shield from it. Only for certain mechanics like E6S and E7S phase transitions and where it just happens to overlap with my own cooldowns. But yeah I can understand how Asylum's regen is so hard to make efficient use of since you would need everyone to stand in it for a long time. I can't say that I'm not tempted to benefit from an Asylum's juicy healing boost now and again.

I'm not sure about Scholar though. When I see Sacred Soil I immediately think 'safe zone' and if I don't stand in it I'll probably die but maybe that's just me being a scaredy cat.

[Urthdigger]

I could also ask why it seems every time I toss a recitation excog on the tank as a SCH, THEN my cohealer decides now is the time to keep them from dropping below half. Healer is so prone to stepping on each other's toes.

[Rilifane]

There is next to no communication in PUGs and every healer maps out the fight slightly different. Although some ways are more efficient than others, they generally all work fairly well. So it's not surprise to meet healers who mapped out the fight in a way that pushes you often into overheal or leaves both of you starved for oGCDs.
The higher the level the healer plays at the better it goes without communication and pushing each into overheal because they know what to look out for and can adjust on the fly. But in general you can't rely on PUG healers and it takes a couple of tries/ kills to get a feeling for how they heal. So the best every healer can, and likely will do, is heal the fight in a way that works even if the co-healer is bad.

And be aware that not every healer main is an "omni healer" who plays all healers and knows them at least somewhat well. You may get a co healer who only ever played WHM in endgame cnotent and is ignorant of the other healers' kits.
While I think it's something healers should do to make their own life easier and be more flexible when on their preferred healer, you don't often see it. So don't count on every SCH knowing what exactly the flashed CU does or to keep his feet still when you just charged Horoscope.
It's frustrating, yes, but aside from reminding people to get the basics right, like standing in your star and staying in range, there's not much you can do about it when pugging. And you definitely shouldn't expect too much. As long as they are not slacking and too greedy, there are ways for you to adjust aswell once you got a feeling for how they handle things.
Even some statics suffer from healers not properly communicating and thus working against each other instead of together.

[QooEr]

Everyones knows Ast nocturnal paired with whm can be very shitty, I get paired with whm a lot aswell. I just did ruby ex as ast noct paired with whm and mine let phase 2 her add team die. Whm supposedly did 28% while I healed 60%. The first phase I barely noticed but once both healers need to have different teams will you start noticing faults. And this is bad for ast since our noct stance takes a lot of mp that trying to constantly heal other peoples mistakes makes my mp drain too much. Ast still seriously needs a second mp gain for sure. I feel like next run il go back to scholar since I can get my mp back during those bad situations. Hard to go ast if you cant trust co healer healing capabilites...

this is why i always go diurnal even when paired with whms. you dont ever need shields except in very hard hitting fights at low item level, and if you ever need a shield to survive a certain mechanic you can just use neutral sect for that specific mechanic anyway.

[Deceptus]

this is why i always go diurnal even when paired with whms. you dont ever need shields except in very hard hitting fights at low item level, and if you ever need a shield to survive a certain mechanic you can just use neutral sect for that specific mechanic anyway.

Pretty much this.

Get paired with a WHM or another AST? Diurnal Regens and WHM stack. Keep going.

Get paired with a SCH? Shields don't stack so you should be Diurnal anyway.

[Ursa_Vonfiebryd]

I don't heal Savage or Endgame but I have all 3 healers at 80. I'm actually still getting used all the new/changed skills but on my alt, all I have is AST so I have to play it no matter what.

I can pretty much heal any regular duty with any of them but there's some healer ettiquette that has been around for a while, like not pairing Noct with SCH. Staggering buffs when its two AST and setting down buff/heal circles in a way that compliments instead of just wasting them.

I get overhealing is a thing for high end content but for me its just layering so I can DPS without constantly staring at the party list. I used to favor Noct myself, when I played AST as my main heals but as people mentioned, the extra regen when paired with WHM is often a better use of mana than shields--and neutral sect is there if you need it.

[Saefinn]

I am relating more and more to the Earthly Star rants now I think. People being in range has always been a problem. But I can see somebody stood with low health and there's a big shiny Earthly Star I'm about to detonate and they're only 3 feet away. I love Earthly Star as an ability and I like that it is detonated (goes back to my love of proactive healing), but I guess is like tanks who pull mobs out of Dotons or Shadowflares (when we had them), you feel like it's wasted. But I've just had so many lately where them standing in it would have been beneficial.

Of course, I know that not everybody knows how each job works or how beneficial something can be, hence I don't kick up a stink.

[Exiled_Tonberry]

If a Nocturnal Astrologian gets 94% on healing and a White Mage, a raw healer, gets 6% then I know that player is being either greedy for DPS or just lazy.

This is actually not true. When an AST is in your party, it covers the healing so well the WHM has no need to push out Medica IIs. Using Eden 8 savage as an example, for the entire first phase of Shiva, when I have an AST in the party, her attacks that usually leaves everyone at low HP are healed up instantly with Star, opposition and Horoscope. The most I need to do is maybe put Asylum down to heal up the little HP that wasn't topped.

It's not fair to say that a WHM with a low heal % when paired with an AST is lazy. There's simply no need because AST healing is busted.