Unpopular Opinion - Housing Demolishment should be much stricter

[Tsukino]

Eh, I think housing demolition is more of a workaround that would be unnecessary if actual problems with housing were somehow resolved or never implemented in the first place.

Its main purpose is to prevent inactive players from taking up all of the space and locking people out of a chance to use the housing system at all. Demolition would not be needed if they could somehow solve the severe limitation in the number of available plots on every server, which is the direct cause of people being locked out. And they might not even have that problem on most servers if they hadn't just opened up the system intended for a small number of FCs to individuals without thinking about how that would fill all plots on all servers forever.

Obviously the first problem isn't easy to solve or we wouldn't have been dealing with it for years, and they already failed on the second one. But just tightening the restrictions isn't going to help people use housing, it's just going to cause the owners to rotate slightly more often - the demand will still be greater than the availability of plots.

[Packetdancer]

Yes but do you USE your house? You keep it furnished atleast? If you do, then yea fair enough, i consider a mostly or fully furnished house to be of use to some degree because ultimately you've paid for it and then put time towards furnishing it and are engaging in it, you're LIVING in it, or alteast making it feel like it is and not leaving it empty straight after buying it.

To be fair, my personal house (admittedly just a small) is often only half-furnished; I keep coming up with designs, recording what I've done for later, and then changing my mind and tearing them down to try building something new. Right now, for instance, the basement is entirely empty and the main floor has my second prototype design for a reading nook taking up most of it. I've come up with a third way I think I could build it that would better, so I'm going to tear it down again soon.

(The yard remains the same, though; I'm very happy with that design.)

Some houses might be semi-empty for similar reasons, if folks are in the process of a redesign.

[VenKitsune]

To be fair, my personal house (admittedly just a small) is often only half-furnished; I keep coming up with designs, recording what I've done for later, and then changing my mind and tearing them down to try building something new. Right now, for instance, the basement is entirely empty and the main floor has my second prototype design for a reading nook taking up most of it. I've come up with a third way I think I could build it that would better, so I'm going to tear it down again soon.

(The yard remains the same, though; I'm very happy with that design.)

Some houses might be semi-empty for similar reasons, if folks are in the process of a redesign.

Now you see i would consider that to be in use - you're just looking for the perfect look for it, and that's certainly better than buying it and then basically abandoning it and then hoarding the plot for no particular reason, and it being a small makes it far less severe as there are quite a lot of smalls, but only like...maybe 100 or so larges per server?

Perhaps that is the issue - Perhaps they just need to increase the ratio of larges and mediums to smalls so its more equal, perhaps even have wards of nothing but mediums and nothing but larges, i dunno.

[YatoShishi]

And secondly, i really think that housing demolish timers should be FAR stricter. 14 days.

14 days? some people go on vacation for 2 weeks, that doesnt mean they should lose their house or maybe they unsub a month for now and then, also shouldnt mean they should lose the house.

I play this game for almost 10 years now (1.0 player + beta player that came out before 1.0) and i have my house now for 4 years, im constantly subbed just for my house that i worked my ass off, 2 weeks is beyond ridiculous.

I understand people want houses, but its not other home owners fault how the system is. Even unfurnished we all worked for our houses, they didnt got handed to us.

ps: the timer is 45 days, not 35

[SweetestLily]

So people should lose their house because they haven't "offered you anything" and haven't decorated it to your standards? You do realize some people on this game are dirt poor and probably spent all their money to get the house in first place? This just comes off as an extremely wierd opinion to me.

[Eldevern]

This is exactly why I'm advocating for instancied housing. Everyone could have his house. BDO offers to possibility to have the three biggest houses for everyone without timer.

Housing in FF is especially broken since they opened it to individual.

There are a lot and a lot of empty houses, even mansions. Such a waist. And people wonder why I say wards are ghost towns?

[Doozer]

They may want the house for a reduced teleport option, I don't know.

That one doesn't make a lot of sense, because you also get a reduced teleport option if you own an apartment.

[Avidria]

That one doesn't make a lot of sense, because you also get a reduced teleport option if you own an apartment.

As far as I know you can only own one apartment though. I have a house in Goblet and an apartment in Shirogane and use both for the reduced teleport


...and for the record, both are decorated, and I'm still drowning in more furniture than I can use.

Shortening the timer wouldn't do anything to solve the real problems with the housing system, and like people have said would really just start to screw people taking multi-week vacations. I'd much prefer SE fix their system than apply a thicker band-aid.

[Paladinleeds]

Ok, so this person thinks the timer is too short. Well what if they made the timer twelve hours? 10 minutes? Would that be too short for them? Yes, twelve hours. Because ultimately it's going to be the same end-goal.

As people have mentioned in this thread, the fix is INSTANCED housing. Like with Ishgard, people think it's the new housing area and SE are getting us to do the restoration of the area for housing. This would be the perfect chance to add an instanced option for Ishgard. That way if you have housing in one of the 3 communal wards you're set, but if you can't get one there, there's an instanced option. Maybe lock it for FCs only so that it's instanced FC housing (since people love to badger on about how instanced housing for personal players is apartments, which with a little bit of extra work they will be, basically think outdoor furnishings, with one of those little balcony type garden areas), which they currently do not have.

[CoffeeBuns]

It shouldn't be stricter, the whole damn system should be changed so everyone can and should have a house. Let's face it, the apartments are useless. They are way too small, do not provide gardening and can't have the same amount of slots than a small house. Also, who are YOU to tell me that I absolutely have to decorate my house in order to keep it? What if, I'd like to level crafting and gathering so I could make it myself. We shouldn't have to fight among ourselves for a damn house, it's stupid. We should all be able to have one especially since they advertise them!