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  1. #41
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    Reinheart's Avatar
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    Zantetsuken - you should add this on top just incase people think it's actual info from the magazine.

    Info from 2ch forums so don't know how accurate the info is; it only mentions this and nothing else at the moment so don't ask me for more info since I don't have the magazine article with me I can't do anything about it.
    just to be safe and info was fake on 2ch forums, until someone can get that magazine last last two times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arcell View Post
    Missed that part, definite NO on having one job locked out once you pick another, even if it was just for DRK and PLD. In any other game sure, but with how XIV is set up that would be a very, very poor choice.
    This depends. In FFIV Cecil was a Dark Knight who atoned and became a paladin, two opposites on the spectrum. In FFXI a Dark Knight is one who walks a lonely road full of pain and suffering, but isn't locked into that profession.

    If in FFXIV the job says you can be either/or, it'll make sense and you'd only be locked outta Paladin/Dark and be realistic, is it that big of a deal when only a fraction of people would realistically want to level Paladin AND Dark Knight?
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    Although I thought what I'm about to say during the first player survey, much to the detriment of those who had invested time, I'm wondering down the same road again.

    2.0.
    Chance to completely change lore.
    Away with sword-wielding gladiators, axe-wielding pirate marauders, conjurers, and thaumaturges with elemental magic.
    A chance to really shake up the lore. And with it, the mechanics.

    edit: What I'm about to suggest further, I'm fairly certain would not make it in. And pause on the brainstorm factor on it.

    I can't type this message due to my attention span being sucked up by slip-and-sliding cats in someone's signature. So cute and fun, aarrgh!
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    Last edited by Fiosha_Maureiba; 01-28-2012 at 03:33 AM.

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    Back to the Topic at Hand.

    Dark Knight should be the Job of the Mercenary Class

    Thief Should be the Job of the Scout Class

    Gunblade User or whatever you would call it(Gunbladier?, lol) should be the Job of the Musketeer Class

    Green/Time Mage should be the job of the Arcanist Class

    Summoner should be the job of the Oracle Class?
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  5. #45
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tempast View Post
    lol looks like I'm out of the loop.
    If you read the interviews that are linked in this post you should get somewhat caught up. Pretty sure one of those interviews talks about the job system too.

    Heck I may even re-read some of them, I was skimming over one and I found some information that I forgot, or didn't noticed first time.

    Like this for example:

    Yoshida: Job-specific armor will have higher abilities when used by its specific job. All job quests must be completed in order to obtain job-specific armor, so they will be difficult to obtain. However, we plan on having gear created by attaching multiple materia surpass job-specific armor in quality.
    Made me sad panda. But alas, let me not derail this thread.

    We were talking about ... classes yes carry on!
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    Last edited by Zetsumei_Tsunarashi; 01-28-2012 at 03:39 AM.

  6. #46
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    Quote Originally Posted by Elexia View Post
    This depends. In FFIV Cecil was a Dark Knight who atoned and became a paladin, two opposites on the spectrum. In FFXI a Dark Knight is one who walks a lonely road full of pain and suffering, but isn't locked into that profession.

    If in FFXIV the job says you can be either/or, it'll make sense and you'd only be locked outta Paladin/Dark and be realistic, is it that big of a deal when only a fraction of people would realistically want to level Paladin AND Dark Knight?
    You really will defend anything SE does or says. I wonder what they did to get this kind of loyalty from someone; I'd love to know the trick to it.

    They would be leveling one class - Gladiator - and would then advance Paladin and/or Dark Knight through quests. They wouldn't be leveling both.

    Also, if you think most people wouldn't be interested in using both jobs, you obviously haven't been paying attention to how most people level/progress through all classes currently in this game. It's the main feature of the armory system - play everything! I don't see why, with fees for extra characters, we shouldn't be able to access everything on one character especially when it conflicts with the Armory system.

    The lore of Cecil doesn't have to exist in this game; they can create their own FFXIV lore for being able to use both Paladin and Dark Knight and I don't see a good gameplay reason to restrict players like that translation says. If the translation is correct and they choose to do that, I think it would be an extremely poor decision and in direct conflict with the Armory system.
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    Last edited by Alym; 01-28-2012 at 03:44 AM.

  7. #47
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    Again in FF Dissidia... Cecil can go light and dark anytime he wants... forget the FFIV Cecil for this one lol

    Since they talking about 2nd job for gladiator and archer... for lancer > Dragoon > Paladin Dragoon FTW lol
    WTF is Paladin Dragoon? - Go play FFIV After years Kain becomes so much better lol
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    Quote Originally Posted by Fiosha_Maureiba View Post
    I can't type this message due to my attention span being sucked up by slip-and-sliding cats in someone's signature. So cute and fun, aarrgh!
    XD

    Sorry, but at least it's fun to watch!

    That's ok, I have a cat eating corn on loop on my LS's forum. It says *nom nom nom* over and over as the cat eats it... many of my LS mates have said they have stared at it for minutes at a time in fascination. LOL
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    I'm just a bun boy, doing bun boy things.

  9. #49
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reinheart View Post
    Again in FF Dissidia... Cecil can go light and dark anytime he wants... forget the FFIV Cecil for this one lol

    Since they talking about 2nd job for gladiator and archer... for lancer > Dragoon > Paladin Dragoon FTW lol
    WTF is Paladin Dragoon? - Go play FFIV After years Kain becomes so much better lol
    Where do you think my name comes from.
    Hasted Blink Tanking Dragoon ftw.
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  10. #50
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    Quote Originally Posted by Holy_Dragoon View Post
    Where do you think my name comes from.
    Hasted Blink Tanking Dragoon ftw.
    They put it down as Holy Dragoon in the English one? First time I saw Kain become that I was like LOL no way but he got a lot stronger, didn't mind that character looks either w
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