It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Arillyn]

I think the most popular option was to create a base template, class based and replace any char gear with that.
Basically you would play clone wars, with every WAR looking exactly the same.

This would require minimal DEV effort and could be done client side, so no server strain either.

Yea that may work. But the more this thread goes on and the more I think about it the more I am coming down on just no.

Before I was like "meh, I wouldn't use it, but whatever," then I was like "well, I would rather resources didn't go to this, people can look away, but still meh if SE implements it" to now I'm more "this is getting stupid to me, now people want to replace actual battle gear because they don't want to see that either? that's pretty insulting and disrespectful to the devs who designed it". So, I'm coming down more on just no.

[Granyala]

"this is getting stupid to me, now people want to replace actual battle gear because they don't want to see that either? that's pretty insulting and disrespectful to the devs who designed it"

To be fair: Glamour does the same.
I glamour most of the pieces because I either dislike their design myself or they don't align with Ifalnas preferences.

[Theodric]

This thread still around? Yikes, are people really that butt hurt over men in wedding dresses in a video game? Please don't ever leave your homes. You might see a man wearing some female clothing in real life then die of a stroke lol...

Well, if you took the time to read through the thread you'd note that hardly anyone is bringing that up as a reason for their support of the proposal. Not that it'd matter if they did, mind you, since there's nothing wrong with someone finding such a fashion choice to be overrated/questionable to begin with.

I'd also note that such sights are extremely uncommon in the real world to begin with in a great many regions so...that isn't too relevant to the point at hand.

[Aurelius2625]

Maybe if y'all stopped looking at my miniskirt while I'm tanking, you'd die to less mechs in savage and stop whining about wiping and never clearing... BUT THAT'S NONE OF MY BUSINESS :kermitsippingtea:

[Lauront]

As for the guy who basically went “lol, by ur logic, we don’t need blacklists or profanity filters uwu”, that’s a false equivalent considering blacklists serve as harassment protection while profanity filters serve to control content that SE can’t manage (and not to mention is LOADS simpler to code; just stick every cuss words you know in).

...but you could in effect just ignore them. They are just words on a screen, so if it's so trivial to simply look away and ignore things, the same approach could be taken with them. The ostensible purpose may be "protection" from harassment, but in the end what things offend others is a very subjective matter altogether. Yet it seems acceptable to dismiss concerns about not liking certain looks other players stick to... but simple words on a screen, oh no for those we need filters and blacklists. More like a false dichotomy than equivalence.

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

You say it's hard to code - what is your evidence that it would be difficult to implement something that just blocks out a glamour? I'd like to hear from the developers what their take on this is from a resource/effort standpoint, as most people here are just guessing based on what they think would be involved.

As for what form it takes, it really is up to the end user whether what it does is worse than the glamour. Not an insurmountable problem in the slightest, in any case.

[Arillyn]

To be fair: Glamour does the same.
I glamour most of the pieces because I either dislike their design myself or they don't align with Ifalnas preferences.

I get that, but you are also glamouring it with something else that the dev team created.

I don't know, just the more the thread goes, the more stupid it's starting to seem to me. Like I said before, at the start I was like well I wouldn't use it but, whatever if SE implemented it. But the more this thread goes the more I just think it's a waste of resources especially since there is no compromise between the two opposing sides. It seems a binary choice to me - it's either implemented or it isn't. Someone is going to be upset and if I was SE I wouldn't implement it. If I was SE I would just be "well we created all this gear - battle and glamour - and it's working as intended. We aren't going to 'fix' something that isn't broken."

[Awha]

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Personally I wear clothes because I have to, and I also have multiple versions of the same outfit cause I rather not have to waste thinking about what I am going to wear irl. Though I am told this has to do me being on the spectrum. I did mention that is why I think people might be against the idea because as you said it has no detrimental impact on gameplay, so at that point it becomes a personal reason why you do not feel the option should exist instead of not using the feature if it was added. From my eyes that seems like spite from my perspective even if it may not be the case. I am a fairly black and white person I see no difference between this and black listing or language filter since sure they were added for different reasons but at the core in my eyes they are options that were put into place to empower players and provide them with a tool to filter out social aspects they may not personally approve of.

How I would do it would be enable an option that puts people everyone is a standard af or black robe nothing too crazy glam or no glam. Though I know my version of the idea would not please many, and I probably would not even use it cause meh. I am just a person that is all for adding options that enhance personal experience that do not have a direct impact on overall gamplay.

[Awha]

RIP mobile sorry meant to quote.

[Fland]

So what even will this filter do? putting everyone in artifact gear?
I don't know about you guys but I would feel less immersed with dozens of people wearing the same gear around me compared to seeing different glamours.

[Bright-Flower]

So what even will this filter do? putting everyone in artifact gear?
I don't know about you guys but I would feel less immersed with dozens of people wearing the same gear around me compared to seeing different glamours.

I don't think there's a solid singular idea being proposed here. Some people want a compete switch hits everyone or nobody, some people want a blacklist for specific players, people have suggested blacklists for outfits, I think at some point someone offered just to hide other PCs in cutscenes in duties. Some suggest appropriate job armor, some suggest displaying the actual gear you're wearing without glamour, or some kind of generic set.

The only real common thread is that people don't want to see certain glamours, there isn't united front on how to implement it from what I've seen.