Dark Knight - I Used To Love You

[Falar]

I don’t mind ShB DRK, but my favorite version of the job is still its HW iteration.

Yep. They took away a lot from us and put watered down versions into Role Skills in SB. That's where a lot of the damage came from. I loved Dark Dance, Blood Price (HW version) and procs to Low Blow and Reprisal which sounded good and did damage.

[HyoMinPark]

Yep. They took away a lot from us and put watered down versions into Role Skills in SB. That's where a lot of the damage came from. I loved Dark Dance, Blood Price (HW version) and procs to Low Blow and Reprisal which sounded good and did damage.

OG Reprisal animation is still one of my favorite animations in this game. Second was OG Delirium. I miss DRK’s procs and having Delirium and Scourge upkeep.

[DRKoftheAzure]

You are welcome to your opinion. I will however respectfully disagree. I miss the aoe rotation from SB, but other than that I've found previous iterations to be way more clunky / not worth the effort.

I can also still feel the DA spam in my right thumb.

Dark Arts Spam was mostly due to Syphon Strike being very lackluster with it's Dark Arts usage single target and Abyssal Drain mass pull in dungeons which was way more entertaining so long as there wasn't a WHM in the party preventing DRK from gaining the full benefits of Blood Price but also due to the fact that Unleash just straight up sucked in Stormblood... At least Power Slash had more use for Dark Arts even before it got buffed(and then removed for mainstream this expansion) and Souleater Dark Arts more used for when Carve and Spit were on cooldown in single target and the only time you ever need the No DA effect on Carve and Spit was either in AoE for MP, or you had no MP in single target...

Also I hated the Souleater spam since Stormblood and they still haven't fixed that issue... Seriously, I have an entire text document on how to make DRK fun again(it's obviously not going to be balanced but at least it's going to be fun if they ever got implemented)

[Ultimatecalibur]

Yep. They took away a lot from us and put watered down versions into Role Skills in SB. That's where a lot of the damage came from. I loved Dark Dance, Blood Price (HW version) and procs to Low Blow and Reprisal which sounded good and did damage.

Counter attack procs are problematic to calculate and design fights for. They in many ways force jobs with those abilities into the MT position or force the OT to take unnecessary damage to trigger them. Pretty much all counterattack abilities were removed to make room for abilities that were usable in both OT and MT positions.

[Blackheart]

Honestly i miss my spamable Abyssle Drain, i'd rather it be a resource cost over that painful OGCD.

[Falar]

Yes and I hate it

[DRKoftheAzure]

Counter attack procs are problematic to calculate and design fights for. They in many ways force jobs with those abilities into the MT position or force the OT to take unnecessary damage to trigger them. Pretty much all counterattack abilities were removed to make room for abilities that were usable in both OT and MT positions.

Might as well make The Blackest Night not cost MP in exchange for not generating Dark Arts if you also want to remove Vengeance's counter attack damage...

[Malmstrom]

I remember.

I remember being the only tank I would ever see sprinting like a madman from end to end, even though it still drained TP then, and I didn't care, because I had a ton of MP skills to use instead.

I remember laughing maniacally when pulling obscenely large groups because Dark Arts + Abyssal Drain spam made me feel stupidly strong.

I remember hating WHM and their stupid Holy spam interfering with Blood Price and screwing up all of my plans. A hatred which has carried over to this day. I still feel like my cooldowns are wasted when WHMs come in and stun everything for half the duration of whatever cooldowns I just used. Not to mention not being able to stun whatever enemy has that one thing it would be useful to stop them from doing because stun resistance.

I remember my first character, a Miqo'te. I unlocked DRK and played it for a while, and then one day thought "You know what would be awesome? Being a giant broad with a giant sword like this." I switched to Roegadame and never looked back. All because BIG SWORD ON BIG LADY sounded awesome to me.

I shelved DRK just recently. I was doing a roulette pre-TBN and it didn't feel good at all. This job that once felt OP from start to finish now only feels just okay, but only after TBN. I'm not super happy with the job like I once was, and so it sits until something changes.

I remember.

[Falar]

Yeah, so many ways to live forever doing hero pulls back in HW.

1st up, blood price and AD spam.

Then DA Dark Dance and a DA Dark Passenger, evasion engage.

Then you had Shadow Skin (NOT RAMPART) and Shadow Wall.

[TheRealQuah]

Yawn. Yet another DRK thread with the same people complaining. Do we really need a new thread about DRK every week. Can we not just have a thread - "Unpopular opinions about DRK" and stick everything in there.