So no job adjustments in 5.2?

[BarretOblivion]

Major adjustments won't come to tanks unless they specifically say they are looking at all of them, and chances are none of the tanks will get anything signficant until 6.0 with reworks "if they even do that".
I would say 2/4 tanks being GNB and PLD are fine and need to expand upon what they have as kits come 6.0.
DRK needs a rework to Delirum and looked at giving it a GCD combo, maybe a combo ending in Scourge returning.
WAR... *scratches head* Look I know some people think WAR should keep its fell cleave spam, and well I can see it staying as part of the job, that doesn't mean everything else flat out sucks to play as WAR. Once you can't spam fell cleaves the job sucks, so they need to look at what it does outside of fell cleave spam really carefully. Look at its beast gauge being something more meaningful. I would also argue reverting the DH/CRIT change to the job. It was a rushed patchwork for its random damage in SB, but they figured out how to get around that with DRK not needing the DH/CRIT on its Delirum so no reason why WAR needs that anymore and just let us finally start melding DH and not groan when we have a DRG or a BRD in the party.

[VenKitsune]

Job adjustments are no longer displayed in preliminary patch notes, or in live letters.

[Kaiserdrache]

Nah there are changes its Just theyve decided to no longer give much info cause People are acting like doomsday is upon them every time a nerf comes. Forums peeps arent that civil either so ye.... We now have to w8 the official patch notes

This wont change, even if the info comes first when the patch is there. In fact the wave of negativity will be then much stronger and worser, because people will know then, that they have no time to voice their feedback, before its too late, leading to frustration and angryness over that fact to have to suffer under the changes several months before they get possibly reverted, when the next bigger patch comes.


If they tell us the planned job changes long enough before the patch comes, the negativity will still be there, but it will subdue over time and be weaker for when patch day is, because people had then time to voice their opinions, discuss things n literally let this way steam off as a reaction

You know, there are moments, where people just need their time to basically rant over something, and once done, they feel better.
But just making changes and telling people first on patch day what has been changed all on their beloved played jobs is on the side of SE just playing with fire n risking uneccessary shitstorms, because the immediate wave of negativity will always be much more powerful n intense, when people get to know changes first, when its right in their faces already there like a bad surprise.

But give people time to think and sleep over changes and you'll see people will be much more able to arrange themself with the changes

[NyneSwordz]

really only nerf Holm should get imo is the multiple chain pull
shouldnt be able to pull someone with multiple holmgang

I don't think this is an issue, and I don't think SE thinks so either. Because the notes specifically said they are fixing Holmgang for Feast, and hopefully, the fix/nerf won't affect Frontlines too much. Multiple Holmgangs are only an issue in Frontlines, so I'm sure the holmgang fix has nothing to do with that. And it's not even a real issue tbh. When was the last time anyone got chain holmganged? You get holmganged once and you're pretty much dead already anyway.

[Videra]

Job adjustments are no longer displayed in preliminary patch notes, or in live letters.

This can only go well.

[Maltothoris]

Wel there was only one change for war and that the percentage of shake it off going from 12 to 15 percent. While this makes war shields a little stronger it’s kinda laughable at best with this change.

[NyneSwordz]

Wel there was only one change for war and that the percentage of shake it off going from 12 to 15 percent. While this makes war shields a little stronger it’s kinda laughable at best with this change.

It's pathetic. I'm done with ffxiv until they change or remove/replace nf. I hate the self target requirement so much.

I want bloodbath back. Or just give me back inner beast. Nf is terrible.

[Aurida]

It's pathetic. I'm done with ffxiv until they change or remove/replace nf. I hate the self target requirement so much.

I want bloodbath back. Or just give me back inner beast. Nf is terrible.

Literally they gave you a skill that lets you rep 2.5k+ healing per second for an entire fight, fully heal yourself after tankbusters or in dungeon trash pulls, and in PvP give lifesteal to yourself and a party member and damage reduction to someone else. This is one of the most broken skills in the entire history of FF14 and we have people unsubbing and crying for a full Warrior rework because... you have to press two buttons to target it? Nascent Flash is blatantly ridiculous in the best way, just make a macro or something, man

[NyneSwordz]

Literally they gave you a skill that lets you rep 2.5k+ healing per second for an entire fight, fully heal yourself after tankbusters or in dungeon trash pulls, and in PvP give lifesteal to yourself and a party member and damage reduction to someone else. This is one of the most broken skills in the entire history of FF14 and we have people unsubbing and crying for a full Warrior rework because... you have to press two buttons to target it? Nascent Flash is blatantly ridiculous in the best way, just make a macro or something, man

I have a macro and it works fine. I dont like being forced to use a macro tho. Nor do i like having to retarget npcs during instanced quests after segment breaks in order to cast nf with my macro.

Why does it have to have a target requirement? It sucks bc of the target requirement. Not everything needs to be about balance or power. Sometimes you just want a skill to be fun to use.

It is not fun now. In frontlines it sucks that you cant even use it on an alliance member. It sucks that you stand no chance if caught 1v1 against any other tank because of this ridiculous party target requirement.

It. Is. Not. Fun.

That is my complaint.

After years of bloodbath, inner beast allowing me to have fun in pvp and saving dungeon runs with self sustain, and then now having to deal with this ridiculous party target requirement, no, i want bloodbath or inner beast back.

Make a new action for party utility. Nf is terrible.

Funny thing is, they changed dragons eye for dragoons to allow use without target requirement, but they leave it for nf. Why?

Nf is terrible.

[Aurida]

Make a new action for party utility. Nf is terrible.

use raw intuition then lol