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  1. #331
    Player Theodric's Avatar
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penthea View Post
    Conveniently ignoring that people take screenshots and stream, okay.
    This is starting to feel as though it has become a case of moving goalposts...to the point where there's an unreasonable expectation in regards to just how far someone has to go in order to account for the sensibilities of other players. It's pretty eerie - to the point where it reminds me of the first half hour or so of the Funny Games movie...
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  2. #332
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    Penthea's Avatar
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    Nettle Creidne
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    This is starting to feel as though it has become a case of moving goalposts...to the point where there's an unreasonable expectation in regards to just how far someone has to go in order to account for the sensibilities of other players. It's pretty eerie - to the point where it reminds me of the first half hour or so of the Funny Games movie...
    No this is you blatantly ignoring that the option you and OP want wouldn't be strictly client side because of the ability to upload screenshots and streams.

    At this point I'm just repeating myself, and you guys are too. Have fun trying to justify this option, that would most definitely cost a lot of time and effort for SE to introduce. They very frequently cite loading times and what servers are capable of for having difficulty or even being unable to do certain things. I imagine the option you want would potentially run into that sort of issue in development. It may look like a flick of a switch to some people, but an option that would auto-hide the glams of potentially hundreds of players in the same zone could actually be a very complicated thing to fulfill, depending on how the game is programmed to read the appearances of players.

    Good luck in your quest for this.
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  3. #333
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    It isn't an attack on someone's identity, so it's a deceptive argument for it to be framed as such in the first place. It'd be a different thing entirely if someone forced somebody else to have to view their character in a full suit of steel armour. Yet since it's entirely client side in regards to this suggestion, it wouldn't affect them at all.
    Yeah, I don't think it's an attack on someone's identity or a censoring of one's personal expression. That's reaching a bit, to be sure. I think both sides of this have fair points, however. One side wants their characters to be seen for what/who they are, while the others want to see these same characters the way they would prefer to see them. In the real world this doesn't fly all too well, but in a game? It's a game. These characters are not our real selves. To that I'd say "WHO CARES?" to both sides of this I suppose. So...while I don't feel that this toggle is worth the development time I think that people need to tone down their opposition a bit so it doesn't sound so silly.
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  4. #334
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    Naoh'li Dow
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    I agree with you Vahlnir but at this point I kinda want this to be implemented to piss these people off haha my popcorn needs more salt
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  5. #335
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    If we're talking about options... why can't both sides have the option? One side to get to hide it on their cilent and the others side to counter act it. Be kindof funny cause you'll know who choose to lock their cilent. Everyone wins.
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  6. #336
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    Apopopo's Avatar
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    Emelc Vrand
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    Balmung
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    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Tl;dr

    "ITS MY GLAMOUR MY CHOICE, BUT ALSO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WEAR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING EVEN IF IT LOOKS OUTRAGEOUS"

    "Yeah ok, but if you get to do that, can we get a toggle to maybe not see that and just have people default to more lore-friendly gear that would only be client-sided so it doesn't affect anyone else?"
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  7. #337
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mordraug View Post
    Some people: "I'd like to be able to turn off glamours as some people make theirs immersion breaking, it'd be on my client's side so only I would see the change".
    Some other people: "REEEEEEEEEE YOU'RE BEING ENTITLED! LOOK AT MY GLAM! LOOK - AT - MY - GLAMS!!! MUH RIGHTS!"

    Who needs a chill pill again? ^_^
    Quote Originally Posted by Apopopo View Post
    Tl;dr

    "ITS MY GLAMOUR MY CHOICE, BUT ALSO I WANT TO BE ABLE TO WEAR ANYTHING AND EVERYTHING EVEN IF IT LOOKS OUTRAGEOUS"

    "Yeah ok, but if you get to do that, can we get a toggle to maybe not see that and just have people default to more lore-friendly gear that would only be client-sided so it doesn't affect anyone else?"
    Why does every summarisation of the other side's view involve capslock and poor grammar?
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  8. #338
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    Emelc Vrand
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    Why does every summarisation of the other side's view involve capslock and poor grammar?

    Because that's what it is, one side is demanding everything be the way they want it and the other is asking for a client-side toggle. One is /forcing/, the other is not.
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  9. #339
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    Alleo's Avatar
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    Light Khah
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    Quote Originally Posted by LauraAdalena View Post
    I don't really want to read all 20 something pages of this thread to find out if someone already said this but.... There are unglamoured pieces of tank gear that aren't plate, and many times people won't wear consistent gear sets making them look alright, which makes them look mis-matched and awful. Will you complain then when people wear gear like that despite it being what they need to for that tier/dungeon? Because it sounds like you might.
    Simple solution, show everyone else in their starter gear or the job gear of the expansion.
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  10. #340
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    Aurelie Moonsong
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    Quote Originally Posted by Apopopo View Post
    Because that's what it is, one side is demanding everything be the way they want it and the other is asking for a client-side toggle. One is /forcing/, the other is not.
    Both sides are forcing. Just in different ways.

    I don't want my character forced into, say, the dancer AF gear instead of the less-revealing but still entirely dancer-themed outfit I made for her because I don't want to be seen wearing the skimpy dancer outfit. Even if I don't see that you've done so.

    And again I am not actually forcing you to look at my outfit in any detail - assuming it's even the sort of outfit you're objecting to, which it probably isn't.

    And I am quite capable of expressing it with proper punctuation and full sentences.
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