It's time (Option to Hide other players Glamour)

[Zabuza]

Your rights end where mine begin. You can look away, blacklist, disagree, and hate it as much as you want, but implying that everyone must adhere to standards set by you is ridiculous. Since you know you can't stop people from doing something, you choose the next best thing in having it your way by putting yourself in your own little world where everyone fits your standard of how you think they should dress. I wouldn't even find this request that unreasonable if your reasoning was anything but "I don't want to look at people's disgusting glamours."



As I just stated, I use that word because you try to justify your cause with the reasoning of "I hate anyone who doesn't wear my pre-approved glamours." You expect the entire community to dress in a way that accomodate your needs. How is that not narcissism? Not only that, you automatically assume that every single person you don't even know that's dressing in thongs is doing so specifically to wave it in your face, andyou want se to implement a convoluted system that caters exactly to your specific preferences of anothers' appearance. You are asking someone to change someone's appearance for you since you can't. Last time I checked, the amount of people who actually do this is zero. It's not as if you have an entourage of frogs following you everywhere you go. Just look away.

You literally don't know me, you cannot possibly claim that I like to, as you say, "prance around saying look at me!" Because I like to be the center of attention. Everything you are saying is baseless accusations directed at people who don't even know you exist, because you have a victim complex.

I did not state that everyone had to abide by my standards. I certainly do not expect people to dress in a way that coincides with my preferences. The option that OP proposes still lets you wear whatever you like. You are the one who is arguing against letting people have this choice. None of your rights are taken away with this; and you say I have the victim complex.

Please tell me then, what your reasoning is for not having this be an option? I've seen two reasons given. 'Don't want devs to devote resources to this that could be used for something else.' I find that argument reasonable. The other argument is 'you're infringing on my self-expression', which is just a flowery way of saying you want to show off and be the center of attention. There have been several admissions from people that they don't want this option to exist because it then means not everyone would be able to see their clothing choices.

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

People here are acting as if this is actually going to become a feature. It won't. End of story. Let's move on to arguing over something else now.

[Theodric]

It's a bit baffling that people are bringing 'rights' into the argument. It's an incredibly deceptive argument and not even all that relevant - since nobody's rights are being infringed through the use of such a system. I'd suggest that those convinced of such reconsider their stance and priorities - it's not at all appropriate to equal an optional toggle in a video-game with the desecration of somebody's rights in the real world.

[KarinaMyrin]

This option will never be a thing as long as SE is still making a ton of money from the mog-station.

Also what would be the answer to players wearing actual armor that's revealing? A leaf-player in the mid-40s could be wearing the Coliseum set, does that need to be deactivated as well? What about Emet-Selch and Urianger and their dresses? Who decides on what armor is "lore-appropriate" in a fictional world other than it's creators?

[Arngrim_Greyashe]

It's a bit baffling that people are bringing 'rights' into the argument. It's an incredibly deceptive argument and not even all that relevant - since nobody's rights are being infringed through the use of such a system. I'd suggest that those convinced of such reconsider their stance and priorities - it's not at all appropriate to equal an optional toggle in a video-game with the desecration of somebody's rights in the real world.

And I don't understand the reason behind wanting an option to police others glamours. This feature would be an absolute waste of time. It's never going to be implemented anyways so why argue about it?

[Theodric]

And I don't understand the reason behind wanting an option to police others glamours. This feature would be an absolute waste of time. It's never going to be implemented anyways so why argue about it?

The reasons are varied and have been put forward throughout the thread. It isn't a case of policing what other people wear, since it isn't stopping anybody from wearing anything - it simply involves a toggle that would allow certain blacklisted items to not be displayed on somebody's screen. It doesn't affect the target in any way and there's a good chance they wouldn't even be aware that someone is making use of the feature unless they were explicitly told.

People can check my post history and see that I have been pushing for more options for glamour over the years. Yet more options also involves the ability to opt out of things as far as I'm concerned. It's the best compromise all around for such a feature to be incorporated.

[Tsalmaveth]

Something I think there is to be considered by those championing the XI system: It was put in place because of the limits of the technology of the time. What the hardware could render/handle, from what I am seeing. It was not there because the developers were supporting the idea of limiting the creativity or expression of the players in the environment they had created and provided with the gear and systems they worked on. That is not the case in XIV. They do not have these limitations and thus there is no reason to put such systems in place EXCEPT to limit the creativity and expression of the players, something they obviously do not support, given how much time and effort they put into the gear, glamour items, glamour system, and mog station.

It's not really a logical request outside of 'I don't want to look at that'... which is fair, you can not like it. But asking the devs for a magic switch isn't really something I see them willing to do in this situation for all of the reasons already hashed out in the thread.

[YellowCrystarium]

And I don't understand the reason behind wanting an option to police others glamours. This feature would be an absolute waste of time. It's never going to be implemented anyways so why argue about it?

Oh maybe because this is a forum and people can discuss whatever the hell they want? Quit your gatekeeping.

[Tsumdere]

I dont post often but here I go.
While I was finishing the Shadowbringers MSQ when it first came out, I remember being extremely immersed and excited when all my teammates spawned in wearing unglamoured 80 artifact gear for the final trial.
Fast forward to 5.1, first run of Grand Cosmos. My teammates were: a topless fem miqote, a hrothgar with only the subligar glamoured, and a jarring metallic purple frog suit.
Not that theres anything wrong with this, but if I were able to have a setting that made all players (including myself) wearing the artifact gear of the expansion, it would definitely add to the experience.
And the beauty of it being an option is, I can simply turn the setting off after I finish the story. Nobody else gets affected, and I get a satisfying experience with the story! I dont get why it being an option is causing so many people to lash out as if it was a personal attack on their glamour.

Use trusts lmao.

[SonKevin]

I actually wouldn't mind a system where I can toggle people into their AF armor for duty finder. It is kind of gross to do content for the first time with a giant metallic frog or an obnoxiously sexualized character.