Why is Square Enix reusing the Forgiven Manatrigger AGAIN?

[Angus-Beef]

They are using the same weapon 3 times and we don't even have the new relic step. People are allowed to be disappointed when we already have so little variety.

Then please go get a job at SE and show them how it can be done better. Manage their resources, manage their dev time, and hey while you're at put the focus on Cosmetics, see how many people play this game after that.

[Halivel]

I have nothing against recolors really and get why they do them from developing point (and they do recolors along with other jobs anyway so it's not surprising to have them), but using the same one in 3 consecutive patches.... makes me feel like we'll see 4th in 5.3. Why not using another model? There are some decent along with Mt. Gulg.

[Bright-Flower]

Then please go get a job at SE and show them how it can be done better. Manage their resources, manage their dev time, and hey while you're at put the focus on Cosmetics, see how many people play this game after that.

Nothing in that post suggested SE put all their resources into cosmetics, only that they stop reusing this same weapon model. Also you don't have to make an X (video game in this case) to criticize X a company made. If everyone just said 'well go make your own' whenever something was criticized then companies wouldn't ever actually get useful feedback.

Heck this specific complaint (reusing this gunblade again) could have been avoided by picking a different one to use this patch in the first place. Though we'll see what this all looks like on Tuesday i more detail.

[WhyAmIHere]

*Dev team makes 2 new sets of relics, new raid tier, New crafting end game, new gathering endgame, massive new story for 5.2, New side story set, finishes crafting changes, Fishing Raids, and starts pre-development for 5.3*
*Forum tilts over reskin*

you're looking at too small a window there.
>Dev team makes plans for 5.0
>Going to have a new job or two... again
>each past time there've been new jobs added, new gear was retroactively added to, or later implemented when content requiring it, for new jobs
>5.0 and GNB/DNC break this mold
>>Diadem gets DNC/GNB weapons, whereas Alex raids have no weapons for GNB/DNC; oh and Diadem was removed to be reworked for Ishgard Restoration
>>>Weapons were added to an area of the game that was planned on being removed and refocused solely on gathering

Everything else you've listed is literally no different than any other expansion launch.

[Alleo]

Then please go get a job at SE and show them how it can be done better. Manage their resources, manage their dev time, and hey while you're at put the focus on Cosmetics, see how many people play this game after that.

When you have someone sell you a meal and you taste it and it taste bad. You tell the cook that its not great and he says: Well then do it yourself! Hope you never ever have something to complain as a customer because seemingly that now means that you have to do it yourself first!

You dont have to manage something to point out where its bad and people do give feedback depending on the topic. For this its simple: Use a different weapon skin. Dont reuse stuff that often.
When we talked about Diadem, about Eureka about Blue and more people gave pages of advice on how they would have done it. Heck we have so many contests that they use to create stuff..hair, clothes, even housing items. Maybe its time to let us create weapons if they are already out of ideas or time in the very same expansion.

[Miziliti]

I've been waiting for crafted version of all Stormblood primal weapons like those from ARR and HW I collected. I pretty much pissed off at the fact that the devs just drops it completely. It also kind of suggest that if we want cool glowy weapons in the future, it's either relic weapons or ultimate raids, which the former is a complete hit or miss in regards of design and the later is something I will never do. So, yeah Let's hope the responsible team come up with amazing designs for relic weapons. I just remembered that we still don't have crafted version of the last HW primal aka Zurvan's glowy weapons, yet.

It's also quite noticeable how the quality of all gear/weapon designs went down a tier or two in ShB as whole. Tomestone gears look okay, but those eden gears are ugly as sin on top of being color copies of each other.

GNB weapons are not the worst case. Some of the DNC weapon designs are also lazy af. For example take a look at the only crafted weapon for DNC (as for now). Draw the weapon out and check its side and you will notice the weapon does't have much thickness (or any at all). It's like you're holding two pieces of flat printing paper.

They can say resources were shifted to the creation of two new races, but now they are a finished product, they are DONE. This is no longer a valid excuse anymore.

[Angus-Beef]

When you have someone sell you a meal and you taste it and it taste bad. You tell the cook that its not great and he says: Well then do it yourself! Hope you never ever have something to complain as a customer because seemingly that now means that you have to do it yourself first!

You dont have to manage something to point out where its bad and people do give feedback depending on the topic. For this its simple: Use a different weapon skin. Dont reuse stuff that often.
When we talked about Diadem, about Eureka about Blue and more people gave pages of advice on how they would have done it. Heck we have so many contests that they use to create stuff..hair, clothes, even housing items. Maybe its time to let us create weapons if they are already out of ideas or time in the very same expansion.

See, I gotchu rn. Playable Content(Eureka, Diadem, Bluemage) > Cosmetics(self explanitory) If its that big of a deal, complain with your wallets and don't play until its fixed.

[Kuroka]

Yes, but im glad we lost dungeons for gettin more other stuff... or wait, where is my other stuff? lol

[yukiiyuki]

Yes, but im glad we lost dungeons for gettin more other stuff... or wait, where is my other stuff? lol

Umbrella????? You can fish on existing boat with weather dynamic changes and.... um.... all money went to MSQ, because most people play this game to make screens, talk in Limsa, decorate houses and the story, nothing more.

[Vaer]

Yes, but im glad we lost dungeons for gettin more other stuff... or wait, where is my other stuff? lol

They put more work into the relic questline which is written by Yasumi Matsuno, it also has it's own trial that has a solo version and a group version. So there's actually two trials this time. I don't know if that counts as "other stuff" though.