Thank you Yoshi for your stance on DPS meters

[CrocodileRocking]

Im gonna give a slight disagree to point one, but only slightly. A lot of us here were trying to prove the point that its impossible for a casual player to know how they are doing and if they need improvement, unfortunatly this point has ended up being illustrated in the way you described but I think a few people are trying to make good points and not just put someone down

What? The person definitely doesn't use their words properly but all I see in peoples response are passively agressively attacking said person.

They clearly admitted they were wrong but people keep on attacking them. What are they supposed to do...sit back and just watch others pull their name in the mud just because they dont like how that person said what they said? How does that make them any different that person?

Also they clearly stated they don't do extreme or savage and only do story stuff to go through the story. Why are people harping on their numbers? You can basically press one attack button to clear all that content if your gear is up to date.

My point of view on parsers.

I think they great. Whoever created them I can't thank them enough because it truly helps me get better because that's how I play.

But...people need to understand most people don't even care or think about what their numbers are especially the majority that doesn't even touch extreme or savage. I will never force anyone that plays that way to get gud because its not needed.

If you are a person that gets mad because strangers aren't playing their job properly and forcing your requirements on them in casual content you need to check yourself.

Do you go up to total strangers in real life telling them they need to get gud? I would think not Because you would get punched or bitch slapped.

Now if you started your own group or party you can make all the rules you want. Kick all your want and tell the person that joined your party they suck all you want because its your rules.

But don't go into dungeon finder and force your play style on anyone. You dont know what kind of situation the person on the other end is in. If you dont like that situation leave take that penalty, vote kick, etc and move on. There's rarely anything good about starting something that could become confrontational with a total stranger.

[hasana]

But don't go into dungeon finder and force your play style on anyone.

Its funny how this rule never applies to leechers.

You're playing with people on a team work setup you better do your job.

[Angus-Beef]

What? The person definitely doesn't use their words properly but all I see in peoples response are passively agressively attacking said person.

They clearly admitted they were wrong but people keep on attacking them. What are they supposed to do...sit back and just watch others pull their name in the mud just because they dont like how that person said what they said? How does that make them any different that person?

Also they clearly stated they don't do extreme or savage and only do story stuff to go through the story. Why are people harping on their numbers? You can basically press one attack button to clear all that content if your gear is up to date.

My point of view on parsers.

I think they great. Whoever created them I can't thank them enough because it truly helps me get better because that's how I play.

But...people need to understand most people don't even care or think about what their numbers are especially the majority that doesn't even touch extreme or savage. I will never force anyone that plays that way to get gud because its not needed.

If you are a person that gets mad because strangers aren't playing their job properly and forcing your requirements on them in casual content you need to check yourself.

Do you go up to total strangers in real life telling them they need to get gud? I would think not Because you would get punched or bitch slapped.

Now if you started your own group or party you can make all the rules you want. Kick all your want and tell the person that joined your party they suck all you want because its your rules.

But don't go into dungeon finder and force your play style on anyone. You dont know what kind of situation the person on the other end is in. If you dont like that situation leave take that penalty, vote kick, etc and move on. There's rarely anything good about starting something that could become confrontational with a total stranger.

All of this literally goes both ways, if you call out people wanting the bare minimum, call out the people who die to the same boss Mechanic for 7 pulls and makes a 17 min a 40 min run. THe bare minimum is LITERALLY enforced by the game lol. THIS is why people always say use a parser, you can see the people underperforming and drop em and not take a debuff, I do agree with moving on after, but you're crazy if you think its ok for someone to leech.

Edit: and for the record, that person literally goes on every thread regarding endgame discussion and talks crap to people, I have no sympathy for them tbh.