[Feedback][PLD] Divine Veil QoL.

[Greywolfamakir]

Hello.

Divine Veil shouldn't need any kind of heal to trigger the Party Shield.

It should work just like Shake it Off.

This change would be good for PLD, gameplay wise.

Thank you very much.

[E4EO]

Sure, but why though? I’m fine with Divine Veil being heal activated, there aren’t many situations where any party members won’t be able to get off a heal to activate it unless something has gone horribly wrong.
But I wouldn’t mind if it was turned into a oGCD shield like Devine Benison instead, make it easier to proc, so I can go either way.

What I would prefer for a change to Divine Veil is that if it effected the PLD, out of everyone in the party tanks are the most likely to need a shield due to them taking the brunt of the damage, so it seems silly to not have the PLD who casted it denied his own shield.

[PeacefulEdge]

Actually that divine veil is triggered by heals is fine, if anything make the sound of when we press it more distintive or the icon in the buff bar more flashy for the healers to notice, because is true that in quite a bunch of cases the healers may not notice it.

[Seku]

Sure, but why though? I’m fine with Divine Veil being heal activated, there aren’t many situations where any party members won’t be able to get off a heal to activate it unless something has gone horribly wrong.
But I wouldn’t mind if it was turned into a oGCD shield like Devine Benison instead, make it easier to proc, so I can go either way.

What I would prefer for a change to Divine Veil is that if it effected the PLD, out of everyone in the party tanks are the most likely to need a shield due to them taking the brunt of the damage, so it seems silly to not have the PLD who casted it denied his own shield.

Because you either sacrifice a GCD (the worse option) or leave it in your healer's hands. Though in most cases if you know the fight, you can put it up in advance and the healer will hit it without even meaning to do it. But that takes fight knowledge and skill in the form of timing, which quite a lot of people don't have.

[QooEr]

theres also the issue that proccing divine veil has to be with healing Spells. a lot of healers (myself included) just use ogcds for almost everything and veil ends up never proccing

i think veil is fine as it is though. you can have a whole minute between pressing the button and actually consuming the shield. staggering your heal so the shield comes at a better timing is a small thing that separates veil from the other shields, allowing you to have 2 effective uses of veil in a shorter time than the other tank shields

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

Because you either sacrifice a GCD (the worse option) or leave it in your healer's hands. Though in most cases if you know the fight, you can put it up in advance and the healer will hit it without even meaning to do it. But that takes fight knowledge and skill in the form of timing, which quite a lot of people don't have.

You usually will have veil proc'd if it is needed by the healers. There is nothing wrong with requiring a minor degree of fight knowledge to make use of skills. Look at AST for example, you don't always throw your star down as it comes off cooldown, if you know there is big AoE damage coming up soon, and everyone is topped, you can delay it so it will top them up again after, saving GCD heals.

theres also the issue that proccing divine veil has to be with healing Spells. a lot of healers (myself included) just use ogcds for almost everything and veil ends up never proccing

i think veil is fine as it is though. you can have a whole minute between pressing the button and actually consuming the shield. staggering your heal so the shield comes at a better timing is a small thing that separates veil from the other shields, allowing you to have 2 effective uses of veil in a shorter time than the other tank shields

This is one of the biggest benefits of Veil if you optimise it's usage properly and work around healers oGCDs, granted it is proper min maxing Veil's usage.

My only Issue with Veil is that, paladin does not benefit from the shield once proc'd which I think should be changed, mostly because the other three tanks benefit from their own, while paladin has an extra step before the shield is activated, I think that is enough reason for paladin to benefit from it's own AoE shield.

[Duskane]

best of both worlds
keep the heal trigger but even if no heal the shield will just show up at the end of the 30s

[PeacefulEdge]

best of both worlds
keep the heal trigger but even if no heal the shield will just show up at the end of the 30s

Would be an inprovement with no downsides indeed.

[DRKoftheAzure]

Hello.

Divine Veil shouldn't need any kind of heal to trigger the Party Shield.

It should work just like Shake it Off.

This change would be good for PLD, gameplay wise.

Thank you very much.

I would like Divine Veil to be GCD group heal shield as that would work better both gameplay and lore wise.

[aodhan_ofinnegain]

I would like Divine Veil to be GCD group heal shield as that would work better both gameplay and lore wise.

Only if all the other tanks AoE shields cost a GCD otherwise no thank you.