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  1. #25961
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    Lammas's Avatar
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    Combo Lammas
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Fisher Lv 100
    Queued for leveling stuff with some FC peeps. We do alliance raid and ended up in WOD and I was on AST. First boss is not exactly stellar with the AOEs claiming some lives and one of the adds getting practically ignored. I'm also not the greatest healer out there as I'm rarely on it and I'm used to the OGCD tools I have at 70-80. Should be easy enough however, right? I notice the other healer has WAY too little health. I check their weapon and it's ilevel 50. Minimum ilevel 90 BTW. Then my FC mate points out that this champion is wearing the full valentiones set, statless level 1 glam gear. Not glamoured, they are actually wearing it.

    I point this out in /p, just mentioning that they are healing with level 1 gear. I get a sad smiley from them and that's it. Then the monk decides to be really funny and says ilevel is just a number. Nobody else says anything So I'm carrying a useless sack of... deadweight healer in an instance where the party is getting hit by mechanics I've not seen hit people in about a year and during Cerberos the same monk says something along the lines of "could I get some healing perhaps?". Yeah sure, maybe the other healer can do that. Their ilevel is just a number after all, right? They die just as my heal goes off and proceed to lie on the floor for as long as they can before accepting the raise.

    You know what? I don't need this. See you again in 6.0 alliance raid roulette.

    EDIT: I took a screenshot as I was just amazed by this and I noticed now that I looked at it that they didn't have the full set on. Hat, chest and gloves were level 1 glam items. I also suspect they don't know how glamour works because they hadn't glamoured any gear and I'm sceptical anyone would pick such specific pieces to cheese the itemlevel. That said, undergeared by a lot is still undergeared by a lot.
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    Last edited by Lammas; 02-05-2020 at 02:46 PM.

  2. #25962
    Player
    Jaelommiss's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Qina Jumaloth
    World
    Excalibur
    Main Class
    Astrologian Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lammas View Post
    Then the monk decides to be really funny and says ilevel is just a number
    ...
    the same monk says something along the lines of "could I get some healing perhaps?".
    "HP is just a number"
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  3. #25963
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    anguel's Avatar
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    Character
    Anguel Wyvern
    World
    Shinryu
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    i got a good one !
    yesterday in DF went for titania, ok sure np, i think to myself she s not that hard
    i ask in the chat if other tank want me to MT, no answear, he got hes stance off, so i guess i ll do it (as mine was already on), fine i jump in and do my stuff everyone engage, and look great,
    i see the other tank activate hes stance so im like "hmm maybe in case i die, so he can jump in easily ?" fair enough why not !
    but then boy, oh boy ! it happend !!
    the PLD suddenly VOKE im like "WTF?!"
    idk if its karma or if it was intended, but right at this moment titania launched "divination rune" now guess what happend ?
    yup, i laughed so hard for a good 2 min, but then i got the "blame" for loosing hate, and got vote kicked ...

    at least i had a good laugh ...
    (9)

  4. #25964
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    Tlamila's Avatar
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    Ainslie Tinley
    World
    Omega
    Main Class
    Paladin Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by Lammas View Post
    Queued for leveling stuff with some FC peeps. We do alliance raid and ended up in WOD and I was on AST.
    I would have left as soon as seeing the glam thing and nobody else caring tbh. If they don't care, they can just have the glam doll solo heal it.
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  5. #25965
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    Dreggit's Avatar
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    Nov 2016
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Helfgrin Dreggit
    World
    Famfrit
    Main Class
    Gladiator Lv 90
    PF'D an A12S BLU clear with the team. Was pretty great
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  6. #25966
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    Raltar's Avatar
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    Raltar Arianrhod
    World
    Malboro
    Main Class
    Dark Knight Lv 90
    Was in Grand Cosmos yesterday with my brother. Was DRK and brother was DNC. Had a BLM and WHM that did fine on trash. First boss goes fairly okay, but the WHM dies at the end. No problem, I thought. Mistakes can be made, its fine. Get to second boss fine and pull. WHM dies again. Starting to wonder, so I ask if anyone is new since the final boss has actual mechanics. WHM says he wasn't new, so I pull the boss and when he does the blue fire thingy, the WHM just stands around and doesn't get rid of his blue fire debuff. I'm like, "Dude, get rid of your fire" and he dies, we wipe. As we are running back he says "Oops, forgot about the fire" and I'm like, fine, we all have bad days. Pull again and he does the same thing. After we wipe again, I'm like "Run to the furniture to get rid of the debuff" and he was like "Oh, lol, I thought I was supposed to heal myself to full."

    So I actually type out all of the mechanics in chat so there's no confusion because now I'm 100% convinced while he might not be new, he doesn't know the mechanics at all. He gets rid of his debuff correctly on the third pull, but when the boss charges him, he stands in the AOE cleave and doesn't even try to move out of it. He survives the first charge/cleave, and the fight goes on smoothly after that, but DPS is a tad low because no DPS from the healer so the fight drags on a little. WHM stands in the middle of two of the chandeliers that fall and burned them with the red fire rune thinger even though I said to not stand anywhere near the chandeliers, but we had enough other stuff around the room to get rid of the second blue fire. Second charge/cleave, the WHM goes down. Boss is down to around 25% health, my brother noobs it up and dies, so it's just the BLM and I left, but we somehow manage it. Was a frustrating run that took a good 45 minutes as opposed to the 15-20 it normally takes.

    I don't understand how you can get to 80 and be running an expert dungeon and still not grasp simple things like not standing in giant orange danger zones. The blue fire thing I can kind of understand because I can't think of any other mechanics like that(though I haven't run many of the old raids, so maybe there?) and he was at least trying other methods of curing it, but when you see everyone else run to the drapes or chairs and transfer the blue fire to those, maybe you would get the hint. I mean, that's what I did the first time I ran it with the trust. I saw what the NPCs did and followed their example. Not rocket science. It is honestly so rare when we have someone bad in our groups that it makes it extra frustrating. But whatever. It's done, we finished, just venting.
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  7. #25967
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    DynnDiablos's Avatar
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    Shai Rae
    World
    Seraph
    Main Class
    Dancer Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Raltar View Post
    Was in Grand Cosmos yesterday with my brother. Was DRK and brother was DNC. Had a BLM and WHM that did fine on trash. First boss goes fairly okay, but the WHM dies at the end. No problem, I thought. Mistakes can be made, its fine. Get to second boss fine and pull. WHM dies again. Starting to wonder, so I ask if anyone is new since the final boss has actual mechanics. WHM says he wasn't new, so I pull the boss and when he does the blue fire thingy, the WHM just stands around and doesn't get rid of his blue fire debuff. I'm like, "Dude, get rid of your fire" and he dies, we wipe. As we are running back he says "Oops, forgot about the fire" and I'm like, fine, we all have bad days. Pull again and he does the same thing. After we wipe again, I'm like "Run to the furniture to get rid of the debuff" and he was like "Oh, lol, I thought I was supposed to heal myself to full."

    So I actually type out all of the mechanics in chat so there's no confusion because now I'm 100% convinced while he might not be new, he doesn't know the mechanics at all. He gets rid of his debuff correctly on the third pull, but when the boss charges him, he stands in the AOE cleave and doesn't even try to move out of it. He survives the first charge/cleave, and the fight goes on smoothly after that, but DPS is a tad low because no DPS from the healer so the fight drags on a little. WHM stands in the middle of two of the chandeliers that fall and burned them with the red fire rune thinger even though I said to not stand anywhere near the chandeliers, but we had enough other stuff around the room to get rid of the second blue fire. Second charge/cleave, the WHM goes down. Boss is down to around 25% health, my brother noobs it up and dies, so it's just the BLM and I left, but we somehow manage it. Was a frustrating run that took a good 45 minutes as opposed to the 15-20 it normally takes.

    I don't understand how you can get to 80 and be running an expert dungeon and still not grasp simple things like not standing in giant orange danger zones. The blue fire thing I can kind of understand because I can't think of any other mechanics like that(though I haven't run many of the old raids, so maybe there?) and he was at least trying other methods of curing it, but when you see everyone else run to the drapes or chairs and transfer the blue fire to those, maybe you would get the hint. I mean, that's what I did the first time I ran it with the trust. I saw what the NPCs did and followed their example. Not rocket science. It is honestly so rare when we have someone bad in our groups that it makes it extra frustrating. But whatever. It's done, we finished, just venting.
    Nothing worse than someone saying they aren't new and know the mechanics yet they still continue to prove they don't actually know them.
    (4)
    "The worst foe lies within the self."

  8. #25968
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    Noitems's Avatar
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    New Gridania
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    Character
    Noitems Ever
    World
    Goblin
    Main Class
    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Ran alliance raid last night and got LotA. We are Alliance A.
    At Atomos, our team finishes first, we look at B.
    "B you need four on the pad"
    "We know"

    Get to the three split add phase with the Bomb, our alliance kills first, B is lagging behind

    Party Chat
    "I think B is struggling"
    "There's always one"

    Get to the final boss
    "I wonder how many in B will die during Flares"
    First flares happen, no one in B dies, three people in our alliance die.
    "LMAO, it was us who were going to die all along!"

    God get me out of this hell and give me HW alliance raids in Alliance rou pleaseeeeeee.
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  9. #25969
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    Ursa_Vonfiebryd's Avatar
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    Character
    Ursa Nightrain
    World
    Mateus
    Main Class
    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Lammas View Post
    Paperweight Healer
    You are such a trooper for enduring that. If I had seen this, I would have immediately assumed this was on purpose to get the low-level duty but most who do this at least have the courtesy to put on good gear once the ball is rolling.

    At that point I would have focused the tank and myself and let the glam healer get everyone else. I don't give carries, not unless there's a real struggle for legit reasons. -Also the entire raid would have known the exact reason why our Alliance was struggling. I have a macro for nudies.

    Hey I get that some people forget but not even attempting to put on better gear (which you can, just piece by piece) sometime during the duty is a huge middle finger to your group. Ug.

    What a horrible duty to have to deal with that. *gives Comm*

    Note- Macro is for actual people with no gear. Not naked glams. Au Naturale is fine with me so long as its a glam.
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    Last edited by Ursa_Vonfiebryd; 02-06-2020 at 06:06 AM.

  10. #25970
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    Packetdancer's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Khit Amariyo
    World
    Leviathan
    Main Class
    Sage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    God get me out of this hell and give me HW alliance raids in Alliance rou pleaseeeeeee.
    "Orbonne Monastery has begun."

    Too far! This is SB, not HW! Go back, roulette! I regret everything!
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