Final Fantasy XI based 24 man raid

[Ryutamashiisan]

Had an idea taking to FC. I think a 24 man raid based in Vana'diel would be cool. It's already been established as a different dimension, it could be a shard world in the lore. And it would be a easy way to introduce people who never played 11 to the lore and give vets something cool to play and a nostalgia trip.

[KageTokage]

Honestly, I'd like the 24 man raids to start standing on their own feet again and work with/expand mostly XIV specific lore instead of borrowing heavily from other mediums.

Crystal Tower was loosely based on FF III lore (And ended up playing a huge role in the future), while the Mhach raids were entirely their own thing. Ivalice on the other hand basically inserted FFT and XII's lore into XIV's world while the Nier raid is essentially continuing one of Nier Automata's endings/timelines and it remains to be seen if it'll end up playing into the bigger picture at all.

[Lambdafish]

It's already been established as a different dimension, it could be a shard world in the lore.

If you are referring to the crossover events, then they are strictly non-canon. As for the idea itself, I have to echo the above opinion. FFXIV has so much of its own lore that is unexplored and I would love to see more of that than another cheap fanservice dungeon. We learned so much about the history of Eorzea in the Mhach series, and I would love more stories like that.

[Duskane]

i would be alright with it
but i definitely would like raids to be there own thing and not "remember this" like most the game is

[KageTokage]

i would be alright with it
but i definitely would like raids to be there own thing and not "remember this" like most the game is

I feel like XIV largely does a good job of avoiding this.

I don't think there's anything wrong with including iconic entities from throughout the series like Ruby Weapon and Quetzlcotl (To name some more recent examples) or re-using the names of iconic characters/locales as long they're altered enough to feel like their own thing as opposed to feeling as though they were literally just copy-pasted in.

The Ivalice raids were the most guilty of this overall. I didn't really mind the Omega raids being 90% fanservice because it was largely detached from the rest of the world/story, whereas they basically just dumped entire locales from FFT/XII into the setting for the sake of telling a story that seems to be almost entirely irrelevant to the greater scheme of things (Only the stinger at the end seems liable to matter going into the future) on top of doing little to build on any established lore.

[ElazulHP]

I still want a Chrono Trigger & Chrono Cross themed raid. You would think because it's a Square property and probably their best non-Final Fantasy game of all time(at least Chrono Trigger is) that would make it an easy decision. I could see several ways to tie it in. Especially, because it involves time travel and multiple dimensions. That is like the bread and butter of this game so far haha.

[Lambdafish]

I feel like XIV largely does a good job of avoiding this.

Initially they did, but I feel like it has taken a nosedive since Stormblood. The Crystal tower as a concept has become its own thing in XIV, with the questline following unique characters and taking on a life of its own in shadowbringers (not to mention the allagan connections giving it a place in eorzean history). The ivalice raids and Nier raid however did this terribly, literally bringing in characters from those games in promenant roles, and introducing races and concepts such as Bangaa, Viera, seeq, and androids simply for fanservice, and planting them firmly and canonically in the world.

Just look at what the garlean empire has become since stormblood, it had its own aesthetic up until 4.X, but then it just became the FFVI empire, complete with all of the model swaps, and to me that was really jarring. Look no further than the fact that we rarely see the 2.X magitek armor anymore, its replaced with the FFVI predator version.

[KageTokage]

I'm not really going to be concerned unless they start putting stuff like that in the MSQ, personally.

The game still largely relies on its own lore in that regard.

[testname]

I want more Nier :3

[Enkidoh]

We already had two FFXI-themed crossovers (special limited-time events, and both were FATEs - one featured a giant Shantotto, the other had FATEs that were references to FFXI in general, like 'Dooms' parties against robber crabs on a beach, one against a Dark Dragon and ahriman, Kindred outside a haunted house... and Serkhet...), so I don't see a FFXI-themed raid line as well.

Besides, Eureka is meant to emulate much of FFXI meta-wise and even has actual music from FFXI (and drops FFXI race minions to boot!), so that's another nail in the coffin to a FFXI-themed raid I'm afraid.