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    Elai Khatahdyn
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eggpop View Post
    The Ascians were killing people of 14 worlds unwilling to die. G'raha Tia was carrying out the wishes of people in one world that were willing to sacrifice their existence for a future they'll never see. It was meant to pararell the Ancients that sacrificed their aether to summon Zodiark, that yes, even the shattered people were willing to save their world in contrast to Emet's low opinion on them.

    Aka, post 8th calamity people spent generations turning a theory that will literally wipe out their lives into reality, and had G'raha Tia carry it out because he was the only one that can. G'raha Tia was awoken after the people decided to carry out this plan. He acknowledges the immense sacrifices it carries. The Ascians doesn't think of the lives lost on the same level.
    In fact this is not true. If you read the OMG short story, it's made very clear that large numbers of people did NOT support G'raha Tia and the Ironworks. In fact they went so far as to attack the Ironworks to try to prevent it happening.

    Yes, it's true we don't know that the other timeline was wiped out. But that is the consequence that G'raha Tia expected. He thought he would die and was very surprised he didn't. He thought it was a noble sacrifice he was making, but a lot of the people who thought he was dooming them to stop existing absolutely did not agree. Life was a big struggle for them, but they still wanted to live.
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    The story also said that, while a vast majority left Ironworks due to the implication of Cid's plan, they were also met with unanimous support from those who remained, and were able to recruit survivors of many different species when they presented their plan as a way to save WoL. Obviously, not everyone was ok with sacrificing their future and their children's future for the sake of saving the world, but enough did since this plan was actually kept alive for generations until its success. Putting morality and the sheer difference in causality aside, you can't equate the genocide of 7 doomed worlds who didn't even know what their sacrifices were meant for, and a portion of people from 1 world who knew the consequences and still carried out their plan to change the past.

    The story never made G'raha Tia and Ironwork's plan 'ok'. They made a clear implication of its consequences. I don't find it ok either. But the key difference is that Ironwork's sacrifice lean towards the preservation of the remaining worlds, while the Ascians will eventually wipe them all out, including the future native lives on the Source. How are these two the same?
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