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  1. #1
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    PrincessMarbleSays's Avatar
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    Selena Rose
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 80

    Blacklisting is flawed and that’s that.

    Blacklisting should be a two-way street and isn’t.
    One person can blacklist another but once that initial blacklisting takes place, they can just toggle it on and off and harass another player remorselessly and the other has no choice but to endure their petty banter while a GM report goes absolutely nowhere and reverse blacklisting isn’t even remotely possible when the players prewriting messages, sending them and then instantly reblacklisting.

    Good job making it easier for people to harass each other knowing there isn’t enough resources to get GMs to combat bullying and blacklisting was meant to be that failsafe and now isn’t.
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    Player
    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    I do wish blacklisting someone or removing them from your friendslist would also remove you from theirs. I got quite the shock logging into a character I abandoned due to harassment after thinking it was finally safe with a name/race change and several months between then and the incident, only to have my harasser immediately poke and ask who I was. My bad for unblacklisting them thinking that time would make them lose interest but knowing they had been tracking their friendslist like that and watching for immediate changes was a kick in the gut.
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  3. #3
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    Valkyrie_Lenneth's Avatar
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    Lynne Asteria
    World
    Jenova
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    Viper Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessMarbleSays View Post
    Blacklisting should be a two-way street and isn’t.
    One person can blacklist another but once that initial blacklisting takes place, they can just toggle it on and off and harass another player remorselessly and the other has no choice but to endure their petty banter while a GM report goes absolutely nowhere and reverse blacklisting isn’t even remotely possible when the players prewriting messages, sending them and then instantly reblacklisting.

    Good job making it easier for people to harass each other knowing there isn’t enough resources to get GMs to combat bullying and blacklisting was meant to be that failsafe and now isn’t.
    If you blacklist them, then it solves the issue though.
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    Jojoya's Avatar
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    Jojoya Joya
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    Coeurl
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    Bard Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessMarbleSays View Post
    Blacklisting should be a two-way street and isn’t.
    One person can blacklist another but once that initial blacklisting takes place, they can just toggle it on and off and harass another player remorselessly and the other has no choice but to endure their petty banter while a GM report goes absolutely nowhere and reverse blacklisting isn’t even remotely possible when the players prewriting messages, sending them and then instantly reblacklisting.

    Good job making it easier for people to harass each other knowing there isn’t enough resources to get GMs to combat bullying and blacklisting was meant to be that failsafe and now isn’t.
    I'm not certain you understand how blacklisting works based on what you've written here.

    You placing a character on a blacklist prevents you from seeing chat messages initiated by that character (not other characters the same player might have) and prevents that character from joining a party you are leading and have listed in party finder (doesn't work if someone else is leading the party and has put up the PF listing).

    The other player has no control over their character being included on your blacklist. There's nothing for them to toggle on/off. If you are seeing their chat, it's because you removed the character from your blacklist or never placed it on your blacklist in the first place.

    If the player is doing something to circumvent your blacklist to continue harassing you, like switching to another character, the GMs will take that into consideration if you report the continued harassment.

    But generally blacklisting the character takes care of the problem - as long as you are not sending messages to that player after adding them to your blacklist. If you're doing that, the GMs might decide you're attempting to provoke the other player and they'll disregard your harassment claim.
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  5. #5
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    Adventica6's Avatar
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    Lost Tales
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    Diabolos
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Then blacklist them back, don't make stupid thread and not feel stupid about it.
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    NanaWiloh's Avatar
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    Nana Wiloh
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    Lamia
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    Astrologian Lv 100
    Blacklisting should be account wide in all honesty. If you Blacklist someone all their characters on that account are counted as well, the only key being it will only show the character you blacklisted. But wont show the other characters said person owns they will just automatically be ignored.
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  7. #7
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    tdb's Avatar
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    Mikayla Rainstone
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    Lich
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    White Mage Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by PrincessMarbleSays View Post
    One person can blacklist another but once that initial blacklisting takes place, they can just toggle it on and off and harass another player remorselessly and the other has no choice but to endure their petty banter while a GM report goes absolutely nowhere and reverse blacklisting isn’t even remotely possible when the players prewriting messages, sending them and then instantly reblacklisting.
    I'm not sure what you're getting at here. Is them blacklisting you somehow preventing you from blacklisting them? It's not like you need to say anything to them, right?
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    purgatori's Avatar
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    Purgatori Sakkara
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    Sophia
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    Dark Knight Lv 92
    This is a "huh?" moment.
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  9. #9
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    Silverquick's Avatar
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    Silverquick Fox
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    Gilgamesh
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    Summoner Lv 90
    Yeah this kind of thing never got to me,

    A lot of people hurl crap at me... thinking I actually give a damn. They thought wrong.
    They assume their own narcissism and ego somehow affects me... it does not.

    The faster they come to that realization... the better off they will be.
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  10. #10
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Balmung
    Main Class
    Dragoon Lv 80
    Blacklisted people no longer being blacklisted be like:



    ...but in all seriousness, you can't simply stop being blacklisted in a trivial, easy-to-toggle fashion.

    I mean, you can go out of your way to make alts or attempt to invalidate the blacklist handle. (There have been reports in the past of people paying to world hop to another DC and then hop back and having their blacklist status reset.)
    However, at that point, it's the same thing as paying your ISP for a replace-on-demand IP and having tons of email addresses in order to bypass forum bans. You're giving yourself extra work, and they still won't listen to you.
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