How would people feel if they took positional requirements away?

[Rai_Takara]

Without positionals melee lose a lot of optimization thought and it would further dumb down that role. It's already being trivialized this tier with easy to Levi and Titan just being a giant omnipositional boss most of the time and the rework to True North making further trivializing it. Melees need to keep their positionals.

On the other side I keep seeing people wanting the ranged DPS as a role to do more damage. If they want that, then I think ranged should have distance positionals where they need to be at optimum distance to do the full potency of their moves.

[Hash_Browns]

Without positionals melee lose a lot of optimization thought and it would further dumb down that role. It's already being trivialized this tier with easy to Levi and Titan just being a giant omnipositional boss most of the time and the rework to True North making further trivializing it. Melees need to keep their positionals.

On the other side I keep seeing people wanting the ranged DPS as a role to do more damage. If they want that, then I think ranged should have distance positionals where they need to be at optimum distance to do the full potency of their moves.

People want ranged physical DPS to do more damage because casters pretty much blow them out of the water in terms of damage.

[Rai_Takara]

People want ranged physical DPS to do more damage because casters pretty much blow them out of the water in terms of damage.

And they should do less damage because being a ranged means we trivialize mechanics and have it the easiest. Last time ranged did a lot of damage we just ran double ranged and said goodbye to the casters.

[Hash_Browns]

And they should do less damage because being a ranged means we trivialize mechanics and have it the easiest. Last time ranged did a lot of damage we just ran double ranged and said goodbye to the casters.

Apologies, I don't play the classes - but last time I checked, SMN was pretty mobile, it also has res, a bit of utility, and currently is the strongest DPS - if I'm not mistaken.

I'm not saying physical ranged DPS should be brought up to SMN/BLM levels of play, but casters ARE ranged DPS. I see no reason why BRD got gutted for utility & damage., and yet SMN (with this current patch) has all of its tools +2000-2500 more DPS.

[Tlamila]

Please no, positionals are the only interesting thing about monk.
I wouldn't mind them removed from ninja, since they're so few and don't impact the class gameplay that much (I haven't levelled dragoon and samurai yet), but for monk it's imho a huge part of their identity.

Apologies, I don't play the classes - but last time I checked, SMN was pretty mobile, it also has res, a bit of utility, and currently is the strongest DPS - if I'm not mistaken.

I'm not saying physical ranged DPS should be brought up to SMN/BLM levels of play, but casters ARE ranged DPS. I see no reason why BRD got gutted for utility & damage., and yet SMN (with this current patch) has all of its tools +2000-2500 more DPS.

The amount of mobility a caster can have is never comparable to that of a physical dps, they always have to cast while a phys has no reason to ever stand still.

[Rai_Takara]

Apologies, I don't play the classes - but last time I checked, SMN was pretty mobile, it also has res, a bit of utility, and currently is the strongest DPS - if I'm not mistaken.

I'm not saying physical ranged DPS should be brought up to SMN/BLM levels of play, but casters ARE ranged DPS. I see no reason why BRD got gutted for utility & damage., and yet SMN (with this current patch) has all of its tools +2000-2500 more DPS.

SMN is slightly overturned but, casters have it harder than phys ranged who are always mobile and have no cast times ever.

No reason for physical ranged to do more damage when uptime is never sacrificed.

[Kleeya]

On the other side I keep seeing people wanting the ranged DPS as a role to do more damage. If they want that, then I think ranged should have distance positionals where they need to be at optimum distance to do the full potency of their moves.

Healer : "omg, can't you stay packed in the healing bubble centered on the melees, so that i dont have to waste more spells healing you ?"
Ranged : "... but my dps ?"

Melee : "omg, why did you stay afar for this stack marker ? I am dead because of you !"
Ranged : "... but my dps ?"

I seriously dont want to see that happening XD

Not that i worry about that anyway. When i see things like Riddle of Earth or True North charges, i think there is more chances that positionnals will be gone for 6.0, rather than having them becoming even more required.