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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    The way I eventually figured out how to deal with hands was simply to stand right behind one of them so that I was able to hit both of them and the boss with Glower. You don't have to kite them, their autos deal inconsequential damage so it's safe to just take it to the face and line up your Glower.

    The boss still needs to be interrupted but that's the easy part. Just have it focus-targeted or watch its castbar on the aggro list. In fact, I think if you line it up correctly, you can probably have the boss selected the whole time.

    Also if you're having MP issues due to healing, try Mimicry: Healer and Pom Cure instead of White Wind.

    So nuh it doesn't have to be nerfed, the difficulty is perfect. It was a fun fight to prog and it felt satisfying to finally get right.
    1900 damage when you're taking hits from 2-3 mobs every 2 seconds and you have 18000 health is not exactly what I'd call "inconsequential".

    Quote Originally Posted by MPK View Post
    What would you consider real difficulty then?
    Something that doesn't feel like it was designed by the jackhole who made Silver Surfer for the NES.
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    it's difficult but it doesn't need any nerf.
    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    1900 damage when you're taking hits from 2-3 mobs every 2 seconds and you have 18000 health is not exactly what I'd call "inconsequential".
    adds in that fight dies instantly if you use the right spell, if not, it's your fault you're doing the fight wrong, it's not difficulty
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    Its not that bad ... did it on my gfs char while visiting this week in 260 and it went just fine, reflux and thunderstrike will get left hand low or killed an additional reflux solves it for sure. Reflux the other hand which will cause heavy ... then you got 10 sec till fluid swing which may or may not be enough to kill right ... but sardine is instant just swap once then after fluid you got another 10 till diamondback which will be plenty to kill right.

    Keep a cool head and thats it really. Alternative is spam every primal move on right after you took out left ... thrn you will be ready for fluid np.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    1900 damage when you're taking hits from 2-3 mobs every 2 seconds and you have 18000 health is not exactly what I'd call "inconsequential".
    One mob, because the other dies before it gets to you, or shortly after. And then one or two Pom Cures fix whatever damage you took. And, as other people have said, if you're super super afraid of damage, you can just dump all your primal spells on the hands. Shock Strike alone does enough to almost kill one.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bonbori View Post
    One mob, because the other dies before it gets to you, or shortly after. And then one or two Pom Cures fix whatever damage you took. And, as other people have said, if you're super super afraid of damage, you can just dump all your primal spells on the hands. Shock Strike alone does enough to almost kill one.
    with healer stance and pom cure it's very easy but if you only have white wind which drains all your mp, it will be much harder.
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    Avi Taro
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    with healer stance and pom cure it's very easy but if you only have white wind which drains all your mp, it will be much harder.
    Harder, but not undoable. I finished the fight with dps stance and no primal spells at all. Just white wind and mana management - pretty much used lucid on cooldown once I was well enough into the fight to need to be healing myself. Had plenty to cast diamondback for the second big splash, and only a few more hits were needed after that for the boss to die.

    The fight isn't a walk in the park to be sure, but it can be done. Definitely not hard enough to really need a nerf, I don't think - though I will say I'm not too much a fan of our res being locked behind it, even so. I'd probably not have bothered if it wasn't.

    @OP, if one way of doing it isn't working, maybe try something different. Different stance, different hotbar layout, different UI setup... whatever works for you.
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    "Run when you have to, fight when you must, rest when you can." - Elyas Machera, The Wheel of Time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avidria View Post
    Harder, but not undoable. I finished the fight with dps stance and no primal spells at all. Just white wind and mana management - pretty much used lucid on cooldown once I was well enough into the fight to need to be healing myself. Had plenty to cast diamondback for the second big splash, and only a few more hits were needed after that for the boss to die.

    The fight isn't a walk in the park to be sure, but it can be done. Definitely not hard enough to really need a nerf, I don't think - though I will say I'm not too much a fan of our res being locked behind it, even so. I'd probably not have bothered if it wasn't.

    @OP, if one way of doing it isn't working, maybe try something different. Different stance, different hotbar layout, different UI setup... whatever works for you.
    yes, I did all new arenas with dps stance too and they were so hard that most players who you meet using duty finder simply cannot clear them and that is fine too, not all content is for everybody.
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    Player JamieRose's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by RyuSaarva View Post
    yes, I did all new arenas with dps stance too and they were so hard that most players who you meet using duty finder simply cannot clear them and that is fine too, not all content is for everybody.
    If the content is not for everyone, then they shouldn't gate necessity spells behind it. I have no problem with regular BLU parties and Blue Mage has always been one of my favorite jobs in FF.

    Quote Originally Posted by VirusOnline View Post
    Ishgard Housing : *points fingers*
    I have no idea what this is even meant to imply.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JamieRose View Post
    I have no idea what this is even meant to imply.
    Ah well poor spideyman ;-;

    On the other hand, there's a lot of good advice. I'd try them all before yelling nerf.
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    [QUOTE=JamieRose;5263157]If the content is not for everyone, then they shouldn't gate necessity spells behind it. I have no problem with regular BLU parties and Blue Mage has always been one of my favorite jobs in FF.


    you don't need revive for anything and if you can't clear the story mode you have no business doing savage fights with bluemages.
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