Quote Originally Posted by ShanaMia View Post
Arthars is not arguing that the ban was not warranted. Hell, he even admits that he deserves it. He's arguing that if evidence from outside the game is now fair game, it needs to be very clear that is now the case and, if limited to a specific subset, which TOS violations would accept this evidence from outside of the game. Note that they did not accept evidence from outside the game previously. This isn't even a matter of "learning morals and practicing common sense". This is a matter of whether we are being policed on platforms outside of the game and if this to be applied to all TOS violations. People have brought up cases where, if outside evidence had been accepted at the time of their report, a ban would have been given such as Feast win trading, admitting in private conversations to botting on their main account, etc. If they're accepting outside evidence for slander/profanity, surely these cases should be subject to the same scrutiny? It's about fairness. Being a streamer shouldn't hold him to a distinctly higher standard in the eyes of the TOS.
ToS is fairly clear about using Parsers and Harrassment. The question is does it count if he uses does it off platform. Yes, it probably does count cause the point of their ToS regarding it is to stop or mitigate harassment of other players. The debate here seems to conflate what 'outside' evidence constitutes. The argument that "Oh this was an outside stream therefore doesnt count because they dont count outside evidence when it comes to things like bots", but these arent equivalents. The distinction lies in a first person account vs a third person account. Unlike bot cases as evidence where it's one player observing and recording another player doing wrong doing, this is the player himself recording themselves engaging in wrong doing. He records himself doing the very thing the rules are designed to help prevent, and is (IMO) fully aware that doing this same action in game would warrant the ban but sought another way to bypass that ban by being clever and claiming its off game therefore doesnt count.