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  1. #221
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    Vahlnir's Avatar
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    Elan Centauri
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I think your individual character design makes a big difference to how convincing certain relationships seem, or changes the mood of them. Alisaie's friendship with my character (another girl of similar age) is going to seem very different to your older male character.

    I also went the whole way through Shadowbringers without picking up on the "Alisaie has a crush on the WoL" thing at all until it was pointed out to me afterwards... but now that I'm starting to play through it with my male Elezen alt, whether it's the awareness or the change of character, I'm definitely getting more of that impression when she's interacting with him. Though it was also clearer in 5.1 with my main character.
    I suppose that could be part of it. Didn't think of that to be honest but it does make at least a little sense.
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    While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

  2. #222
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    Quote Originally Posted by NessaWyvern View Post
    I didn't notice it much either, but for some reason I get a little sister vibe from her, so I must have picked up on it a bit. I guess it's because she's young, and she looks up to you, and your strength and experience. Also, because she can be a little bit of a brat sometimes, as siblings can be.
    It's also probably why I get disgusted more than usual when older people say they want to date Alisaie. GET AWAY FROM LIL SIS.


    You can also stay away from lil sis T^T
    Yeeeah I also still see her as a kid. I mean, the twins haven't physically grown at all from the start. So the idea is indeed revolting. It would be the same with Ryne (who also displays adoration towards the protagonist).
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  3. #223
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    Quote Originally Posted by Iscah View Post
    I think your individual character design makes a big difference to how convincing certain relationships seem, or changes the mood of them. Alisaie's friendship with my character (another girl of similar age) is going to seem very different to your older male character.

    I also went the whole way through Shadowbringers without picking up on the "Alisaie has a crush on the WoL" thing at all until it was pointed out to me afterwards... but now that I'm starting to play through it with my male Elezen alt, whether it's the awareness or the change of character, I'm definitely getting more of that impression when she's interacting with him. Though it was also clearer in 5.1 with my main character.
    Playing a female Roe, the twins are like my WoL's kids. 5.1 Alisae, to me, was like seeing a teen get upset someone insulted their mother.
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    This is probably the easiest forum to bait.

    y'all are kinda dumb tbh

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    Not a large opinion, but I don't like Alisae as much, like she's kool but I think her brother - I can't spell his name- is loads better. I even did his story first and then went to Alisae's, it flows much better doing his part first as his plots always hold more weight then hers. Plus he just grew up more, he once started off as a know it all but has grown into a full character and Kitkat's relationship with him feels more natural. You really see the grown he has as a character while alisae is mostly pushed into plots and to top it off she hasn't grown as much as he has. He's simply a much better written character out of the two. As far as plot armor... they are trust now and anime characters so yeah... they are covered and bathed into it, and I think thats fine. Not everyone needs to freaking die like some cheap trick to be meaniful.
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  5. #225
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Yeeeah I also still see her as a kid. I mean, the twins haven't physically grown at all from the start. So the idea is indeed revolting. It would be the same with Ryne (who also displays adoration towards the protagonist).
    The problem is that Yoshida himself has stated that they written her on purpose to be seen that way. (As in either friend or someone that is in love with the WoL) Ryne still feels more pure on that part because she does not show any kind of jealousy towards other people liking us which is shown quite a bit with Alisaie.

    I am also not sure why they did that. I know younger people can fall in love with older ones, but in a game where they dont let us be teenager because they fear bad press if people use it for lewd stuff, I am a bit surprised that they made a clearly underage character into someone that can be easily seen as in love with us.
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  6. #226
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    Nessa Goddessly
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tlamila View Post
    Yeeeah I also still see her as a kid. I mean, the twins haven't physically grown at all from the start. So the idea is indeed revolting. It would be the same with Ryne (who also displays adoration towards the protagonist).
    Yes, Alisae is the firey, but also quite vulnerable little sis, who demands all of your attention,
    Ryne is the polite, uncertain (at first) lil sis,
    and Alphinaud is that talks-too-much lil bro, who you have to admit is pretty smart, who can also draw really well.
    All of them must be protected from creeps :V
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  7. #227
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    Primal Ishtar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    I don't mind Alphinaud too much, since he at least underwent drastic character development, suffered for his arrogance and became a better person. Alisae never changed - she's still as arrogant as she was back in the days of ARR. I'm sure I'll roll my eyes when she miraculously finds a way to save both Halric and Ga Bu and has everything wrap up in a neat little bow for her unlike with her brother's trials and tribulations.

    There's also a double standard - characters like Alphinaud and Ramza are criticised for their arrogance but Alisae doesn't get nearly as much backlash. If and when she does end up on the chopping block I hope it's painful! It's a shame she didn't go the way of her friend in Ahm Araeng.
    im not a fan of alisae but wanting an underage character quote un quote a child character not only to die but die in a painfull way you have cleary shown me that you are 1 messed up individual.
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    Zeon Darksol
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    Shadowbringer story is good that isn't the issue.
    Though I have a issue and few friends and cousin his wife have a issue with equipment system.

    The routine has never changed its not updated even though the routine hasn't change the problem is that I can beat the content using my relic gear after hitting my level cap, I do not have to farm because everyone knows that the caps on gear are lifted and you can farm them freely though why would you need to do that? if you are good enough to take on the next set of monsters and bosses you only need to upgrade your weapon and maybe a few rings.

    After content is beaten all I do is quit till next expansion I got no house to worry about the content I see is not worth it, I don't care for pvp, I don't care for side quest since its a gil sync 999 teleports no thanks.

    I used to play FFXI I loved the freedom to wear a weapon I wanted or gear which had its own things like multi hit I am sure people say oh go play that then sorry no thanks the game died years ago when they started rehashing monsters.

    NM's were fun and hunt's aren't NM's-
    dynamis was okay except the cost for hourglass
    teleporting for free was the best I mean who is getting this gil
    farming was fun but in ffxiv there is nothing keeping me in the zones or making gil, I simply tell my retainer to go out and make me money or spam dungeons.
    abyss killed ffxi with the level 99 i believe 75 was the sweet spot

    ffxiv is great I love nostalgia but there needs to have more stuff for zones that already exist equipment gain needs to change and the way we do things its becoming stale.

    for some people they only defend it because they haven't done it all yet and for those who have finished and defend it they just don't want to speak out of turn but play few more years you'll come around.
    it's really going to hurt when people start going to phantasy star online on their ps4's when the NA version is released in west.
    im sure people will pay sub then figure why am I paying sub I dont got a house then full time for a while to let FFXIV refresh for them.
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    Last edited by Zeonx; 12-05-2019 at 07:58 PM.

  9. #229
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    Matthieu Desrosiers
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kusanagi7 View Post
    im not a fan of alisae but wanting an underage character quote un quote a child character not only to die but die in a painfull way you have cleary shown me that you are 1 messed up individual.
    She's not real. You realise that, right? She's also a teenager - which makes the context of my post very different to how it'd be if she happened to be younger than sixteen. It's pretty creepy that you'd accuse someone of being a horrible person just because they dislike a fictional character and want them to be killed off in a fictional universe! Though if I recall correctly, it's far from the first time that you've made such comments.

    Given that Alisae actively tries to kill off other characters during the story, I don't see why she should be immune to the consequences of her actions.
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  10. #230
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    Riamara Skye
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    WOW. You guys bit into this troll sandwich for 23 pages?! The OP posted one message that was their opinion. A very unpopular opinion. How does this spawn 23 pages of discussion? Shadowbringers is the best story to ever grace an MMO. Nothing compares. You can stop posting here now.
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