Emet-Selch Is Not That Tragic

[Elladie]

@savage elf
It's a little hard to understand your English, but I think you're saying that G'raha is right to kill thousands of people in the future to save the people in the past? How is that justifiable under anyone's absolute morality? If it's murder, and murder is absolutely wrong under all circumstances, then G'raha is wrong. He ignored all the people in the future who tried to stop him doing what he did and erased them from existence by going back to change the past. How is that okay but Hades is not okay?

Just to clarify, I am not talking about G'raha sacrificing himself, I am talking about the thousands of people in the future he destroyed with his actions. In the OMG short story, people attack the Ironworks base to try and stop him because they know what he is planning will kill them. How is that any different from us attacking Hades to stop him carrying out his aims to restore the past?

[Savagelf]

@savage elf
It's a little hard to understand your English, but I think you're saying that G'raha is right to kill thousands of people in the future to save the people in the past? How is that justifiable under anyone's absolute morality? If it's murder, and murder is absolutely wrong under all circumstances, then G'raha is wrong. He ignored all the people in the future who tried to stop him doing what he did and erased them from existence by going back to change the past. How is that okay but Hades is not okay?

Just to clarify, I am not talking about G'raha sacrificing himself, I am talking about the thousands of people in the future he destroyed with his actions. In the OMG short story, people attack the Ironworks base to try and stop him because they know what he is planning will kill them. How is that any different from us attacking Hades to stop him carrying out his aims to restore the past?

he save the people that you agrue that he killed see he go back to past to prevent their death that would come for people fight over resource that slowy become less and less not only save them but he prevent a fall of nations. see time travel is interest thing here G'raha by prevent the 8th umber he has save million include the very people that attack the Ironworks. the difference it Hades destroy Million in pursuit think he would save million yet that hasn't been prove. Zodark could be as I am theorical a deity that consume life aether has become addict to it. notice that every time they gave life aether to Zodarck it made the problem worst.

what was taught for this expansion was the dangerous of shade of grey belief because ascian are able excuse they they where one decide to make Zodarck by this they chosen they action creator they god and feed they god not make thing better. each part of expansion show us how they action made them more evil and not less seem and how they action can be excused them. good and evil is difference between life and death.

[Elladie]

@ Savage Elf

But he DOESN'T save those people in the future. By changing the past, he prevents them even existing, and they did not support him doing this.

Now it has been suggested that events ended up in a second time line being created which may turn out to be true. In which case they didn't cease to exist but they are still doomed to deal with the desperate consequences of the Eighth Calamity. So G'raha hasn't helped them at all, he's just abandoned them. More importantly, G'raha had NO IDEA this would happen. He carried out his plan expecting to die himself but knowing FULL WELL he was ending everyone in the future. I think you misunderstand how far in the future that is, it's not just a couple of months, it's many years later, generations later. All those people go POOF and cease to be, and G'raha knew that. He still chose to do it.

Please explain how that's any different to Zodiark/Hydaelyn/the Convocation/the Ascians actions? All of them chose a path to follow that saved one thing at the cost of another