Rolling on 2B Outfit When You Have it Already.

[RyuSaarva]

Sorry, but if you've played up to 5.1 and can't afford that, you're doing something wrong. I'm an 'average player' and I can afford a good handful of those before I go broke.

just a few days ago I made the new 5.1 glam jacket for someone and they offered me dyes as a reward since he only had 100k gil.

[reivaxe]

Sorry, but if you've played up to 5.1 and can't afford that, you're doing something wrong. I'm an 'average player' and I can afford a good handful of those before I go broke.

That makes zero sense my dude.

Yeah, I could buy a full set of jet black ... but why would I dump 2mil in dyes on a glam plate? I'd never be able to justify changing that plate as it's got 2mil worth in dye on it that will just go down the drain if I touch it. And now what if I want a red version of the outfit? I gotta have 2 2B glam Plates ...

To put some perspective a small house can run you round 3mil. It makes no sense to dump 2mil on PLATE dye. If you're gonna go big you gotta use common sense and get your gil worth. Gotta have it dyed in the dresser. And if you want the 2 most expensive dyes for it then you gotta get 2 sets.

That's what I do atleast. I'm not rich, so if I like how a rare dye looks on a glam I dye it in the dresser. Try to only use reg dyes or cheaper rares for the plates.

[Jojoya]

I personally don't see any reason to roll on it when you already have it. I personally don't use it seeing as I love the healer class set more from the raid than 2B's outfit. It shouldn't let you roll on it if you already possess it. Just makes it harder for the rest of the people to earn it.

The problem is the game isn't currently able to recognize if you have gear stored in places other than your character's Inventory/Armory Chest. Someone can put them into a glamour dresser, chocobo saddlebag, etc. and be free to roll again.

Is it frustrating when someone does this? Of course but it's a relative few players doing it and they still have to be able to win the roll against all the others who are also rolling. The drama will die out in a few weeks and the trolls will find something new to do.

[SturmChurro]

That makes zero sense my dude.

Yeah, I could buy a full set of jet black ... but why would I dump 2mil in dyes on a glam plate? I'd never be able to justify changing that plate as it's got 2mil worth in dye on it that will just go down the drain if I touch it. And now what if I want a red version of the outfit? I gotta have 2 2B glam Plates ...

To put some perspective a small house can run you round 3mil. It makes no sense to dump 2mil on PLATE dye. If you're gonna go big you gotta use common sense and get your gil worth. Gotta have it dyed in the dresser. And if you want the 2 most expensive dyes for it then you gotta get 2 sets.

That's what I do atleast. I'm not rich, so if I like how a rare dye looks on a glam I dye it in the dresser. Try to only use reg dyes or cheaper rares for the plates.

Well, 2B is already jet black to begin with, so you only need one. I agree though, the limited plates, and the cost of dyes in general is the problem. Not even if you just use White/Black. Whatever is dyed in-plate can never be changed unless you want to waste the gil you paid to dye the plate, rather than the piece(s) of gear. I could see me having 2 sets in the future, for White variants.

[Nora_of_Mira]

I’ve read about some people wanting multiple sets of the gear so that they can dye them rare dyes, like Jet Black and Pure White.

I've seen this argument in a few different places and I just dont think it holds any water in the current situation. The people that are angry have 0 2B coffers and just want a fair chance of getting one (because the people w/o the 2B coffer are expecting those with the 2B coffer to pass). In order for someone to have 2+ 2B coffers, they are taking away the 2B coffer from another player (angery). Compare this to dungeon glams, and its technically the same issue but no one really complains bc dungeons take 15 minutes to run and alliance raids take 30-60 minutes, and the dungeon loot is tied to class/role so its less random.

"I wanna have 2+ sets for dye reasons" is valid in normal circumstances but the current circumstance is "i've ran this raid 10+ times and people with the armor are winning it while I still have 0". Once EVERYBODY has the coffer, this problem goes away. I predict Square will bump the coffer to 5 or 6 instead of 3.

[Deceptus]

The problem is the game isn't currently able to recognize if you have gear stored in places other than your character's Inventory/Armory Chest. Someone can put them into a glamour dresser, chocobo saddlebag, etc. and be free to roll again.

Is it frustrating when someone does this? Of course but it's a relative few players doing it and they still have to be able to win the roll against all the others who are also rolling. The drama will die out in a few weeks and the trolls will find something new to do.

You know how easy it would have been to fix this? Put an achievement in for when you looted the coffer. Then you set a condition where if you have the achievement, you can't loot on the coffer again. But we can't expect such a small indie company to come up with simple solutions like these on their own, they clearly need help /s

It's not hard. There are no excuses for what's going on right now. People are abusing the system.

[Gula]

What is the mess of bull crap I've been told. You can still roll on a piece of 2B gear even tho you have it already?

Anyone caught doing this should be banned immediately. Letting this even be a thing is asinine. This better be patched real soon.

Is someone upset they can't dress their barbie in skimpy clothes? Please, people like you immediately zip it when they get what they want and never touch the forums until something else trivial arouses their ire.

Sorry, but if you've played up to 5.1 and can't afford that, you're doing something wrong. I'm an 'average player' and I can afford a good handful of those before I go broke.

I've been playing since Heavensward and only have 100k. I also have 2 large houses, doesn't mean I'm rolling in millions either. Gil is spent, not often made back if one doesn't keep it up. Your view on currency is insanely flawed since you're only seeing it from how you utilize gil.

[Aurelius2625]

This makes me want to keep storing 2b coffers on a retainer and keep rolling on them, honestly.

[RicaRuin]

This makes me want to keep storing 2b coffers on a retainer and keep rolling on them, honestly.

I mean, you could do that, if you feel the need to be petty.

[Umsche]

Are those coffers sellable ?

I got one and opened it, but the outfit looked ridiculous on my male Hyur, so I destroyed it.

If they're not sellable, there's no reason for me to roll them.