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  1. #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by CookiesNCreams View Post
    Annnnd this is why Yoshida will be making easily HQ’able macros and rotations require procs in 5.2.
    So the guy says it requires BiS gear with overmelds and you're still complaining about it being too "easy" to do. Tell you what, if you'd like to just add artificial "challenge" to your crafting, why not use worse gear? Or no overmelds? That way the rest of us can enjoy stats that matter and you can have your "challenge." It's win-win.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buuhuu View Post
    Hi,

    I came up with similar macros, when I tested with the 35 durab items, but I think you might have tested on the wrong items in the first one, at least when you say quality needed is 32753, as the new 2 star 35 durab items have 35092 quality requirement?

    Anyway I think you mixed two skills in the first rotation:



    I think you meant to do:



    this way it works, like you described even for the new 2 star ones but with those requirements as of teamcraft:

    Craftsmanship: 2242
    Control: 2336
    CP: 588

    Edit:

    Also I would switch Great Strides and Ingenuity at the end, cause without Ingenuity you cannot finish the craft, therefore, when you have an excellent proc, you need to remember this when manually crafting (could lead to failing the craft if not paying attention)
    That's some wonderful amendments! Thank you very much!
    And yes, I was only doing the old 2 stars. And your amendments really helped with dealing the new 2 star.

    The last part should be:
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>

    /echo ShB 35 durab p2 (588cp) ended<se.4>

    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo ShB 35 durab p3 (588cp) ENDED!<se.6>

    Because Innovation is actually the weakest out of all.

    The way how everything is lined up perfectly now is just BEAUTIFUL ...durab hitting max just before Manip falls off and then Waste Not kicks in... 5 steps of Ingen finishes just as the last Focused Syn completes. It's in such perfection it's exciting to watch as the macro runs!
    Thanks again!
    Cheers!~
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    Last edited by Caimie_Tsukino; 11-03-2019 at 10:20 AM.

    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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    Quote Originally Posted by Caimie_Tsukino View Post
    That's some wonderful amendments! Thank you very much!
    And yes, I was only doing the old 2 stars. And your amendments really helped with dealing the new 2 star.

    The last part should be:
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>

    /echo ShB 35 durab p2 (588cp) ended<se.4>

    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /echo ShB 35 durab p3 (588cp) ENDED!<se.6>

    Because Innovation is actually the weakest out of all.

    The way how everything is lined up perfectly now is just BEAUTIFUL ...durab hitting max just before Manip falls off and then Waste Not kicks in... 5 steps of Ingen finishes just as the last Focused Syn completes. It's in such perfection it's exciting to watch as the macro runs!
    Thanks again!
    Cheers!~
    Glad I could help

    For your last change with Innovation:

    I thought about that aswell, but you would bump the craftsmanship requirement by a lot, with that (to around 2345 as of teamcraft). As innovation not just only buff quality gain, but also progress now.

    In theory your change is really nice, if you want to get the most quality out of it. But when you have an excellent proc for your finisher, your control could be as low as possible for those items and you would still get the item to 100% most likely. Therefore I think it's an unneccessary increase of craftsmanship requirement in this case
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    So the guy says it requires BiS gear with overmelds and you're still complaining about it being too "easy" to do. Tell you what, if you'd like to just add artificial "challenge" to your crafting, why not use worse gear? Or no overmelds? That way the rest of us can enjoy stats that matter and you can have your "challenge." It's win-win.
    Oh, please. That’s absolutely silly. I got a better idea. How about we get content just like casuals? We have our RNG procs, and you have your easy recipes. No matter what arbitrary rules you suggest me to set myself to, the fact that the gear is still easy to make, and is laughably easy, is still present. Please don’t debate with me over this *again*, we aren’t going to agree on it. Essentially asking me to walk on one leg because it’s “harder” is like, the weakest and most illogical argument you could make.

    All I can say is, I look forward to the next live letter when they finally explain more about these procs. Because you and your macros can’t really save the day once that happens. :P

    Anyways, this isn’t really the thread to talk about this. It’s better to talk about it on the popular thread I made a few months ago. It’s better SE sees things from all of our perspectives in a single thread. And I think they’ve said before they prefer things to be in a single thread.
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    Last edited by CookiesNCreams; 11-03-2019 at 07:34 PM. Reason: Words

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    If you have 2140 craftsmanship 2010 Control and 535 cp. Then all you need is HQ Blood B + cunning craftsmen syrup and 2 HQ mats. This is for the 70 dur rotation though dont remember exactly how low you could go with 35 dur..
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    Wait so no one uses the "Element" stuff? weird its acually pretty nice...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kuroka View Post
    Wait so no one uses the "Element" stuff? weird its acually pretty nice...
    Well the Element-Stuff is good, but now that it costs 30 CP to just buff it to reasonable levels, it isn't that useful anymore. To reach full progress is rarely the problem. When doing rotations, it is mostly about how to squeeze the most quality out of it.

    In most cases, when I tried to include the "Element"-Stuff into my rotation I either waste one Buff (Inguenity for example) to get all 3 uses out of it or just using 2 and with the CP spent there I often could do the same with less CP usage^^

    If you have a rotation, where you utilize the Element-Skills, feel free to share, maybe I am wrong and there is a good use case for them when crafting endgame stuff
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    Am i missing something, see all these macro's end with Byregot's blessing, but none of them use Inner Quiet?
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    Reflect applies it automatically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Buuhuu View Post
    Glad I could help

    For your last change with Innovation:

    I thought about that aswell, but you would bump the craftsmanship requirement by a lot, with that (to around 2345 as of teamcraft). As innovation not just only buff quality gain, but also progress now.

    In theory your change is really nice, if you want to get the most quality out of it. But when you have an excellent proc for your finisher, your control could be as low as possible for those items and you would still get the item to 100% most likely. Therefore I think it's an unneccessary increase of craftsmanship requirement in this case
    Sorry, I'm not sure what you meant, since the arrangement of
    /ac "Delicate Synthesis" <wait.3>
    /ac "Ingenuity" <wait.2>
    /ac "Great Strides" <wait.2>
    /echo ShB 35 durab p2 (588cp) ended<se.4>

    /ac "Innovation" <wait.2>
    /ac "Byregot's Blessing" <wait.3>
    /ac "Observe" <wait.3>
    /ac "Focused Synthesis" <wait.3>
    would make the Innovation apply to the Focused Syn too. So I am not sure why this would bump up the craftsmanship requirement. I think I probably just need 2200-ish for it.

    If Excellent procs before the Innov, then just manually press Byregot, and then Innov before finishing with the rest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gralna View Post
    Am i missing something, see all these macro's end with Byregot's blessing, but none of them use Inner Quiet?
    Reflect now auto-applies IQ, so Reflect is really really CP-saving now!
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    “The best crafter is not the one with the best stats, but the one who makes the best use of one’s stats” – By Caimie Tsukino

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