Tales from Duty Finder: Some make you laugh, some make you cry. Let's vent.

[Sapphire_Dianta]

OOF. Back with a spicy one, this time from the new alliance raid.

Really though, what is it with the DRK class and attracting bad people? It seems like the entire class is plagued by them the same way that SAM is. The edge attracts them, it's like how all the players named after Kirito or something end up eating the floor the most.

Anyway, the DRK. Loaded up into Copied Factory as a MCH and—as I've taken up the habit of doing recently—I inspect my tank. I swear to god I'm not toxic! I've just been traumatized by the duty finder and I don't trust randoms anymore to tank without killing everyone around them. Unfortunately for me, the queue times for tanks in alliance raids are ass, hence going in as MCH. Sure enough, the guy seems to be fresh out of story stuff. Wearing mostly Weathered gear, a couple Ronkan and Amaurotine parts. Not the best gear, but he's got a couple other tanks at Lv80, so this should go fine!

HAH. HOW WRONG I WAS.

I first notice a problem when one of the other alliance's tanks (a PLD with very respectable gear) pulls the first boss and our DRK immediately provokes it off them. Let the aggro wars commence, I guess? Unfortunately I don't have time to grab my popcorn because OH MY GOD THERE'S MECHANICS HAPPENING AND BOTH OUR HEALERS ARE ALREADY DEAD ON THE FLOOR, WHY. This is a trend that continues through the rest of the raid; our two healers eat AoEs and die, and the more competent half of the party follows suit because there's no one left to keep us up during raid-wides and we've got no casters as backup. We barely manage to limp through the boss without a wipe and move on to GLaDOS. DPS is super slow—probably because everyone's CONSTANTLY FREAKING DEAD BECAUSE THE HEALERS ARE DOING THEIR BEST DRAGOON IMPRESSIONS FOR HALLOWEEN—but it's passable.

Now again, I wasn't paying too much attention to the DRK at this point. I was too busy pterodactyl-screeching at the healers to not get hit by literally everything because dammit, I'm too young to get killed by even more raid-wides. Suddenly, BAM! Four DPSes dead. GLaDOS dropped the exploding tether bois on us, the tank decided not to grab them, and none of us were topped up beforehand because of aforementioned dead healers.

"Tank, can you please grab those?" A dead DNC meekly asks in party chat.

"our damage is bad anyway lol," the tank replies, probably mashing his keyboard with one hand while eating glue with the other. "u want me to die to save u?"

What? Bullshit. I know for a fact that mitigating four of those tethers at once as a tank is easy. Sure, my Gunbreaker is in full i-lvl 470, but just pop The Blackest Night and Shadow Wa—... you know what, no. I'm not gonna get stressed over this. Just focus on the fight, maybe you'll actually get a good roll on the cute little Pod minion this time!

Unfortunately for my stress levels, because of this little change, this DRK is now on my radar. So in between my Heat Blast spams, I watch him. The stress levels increase. No Salted Earth. No Blood Weapon, no Delirium, no Bloodspiller. No cooldown usage. Is that... is he using Dark Missionary off cooldown even when there's no raid-wides happening? WHY? WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS, OUR HEALERS ARE ALREADY STRUGGLING ENOUGH.

More than a little triggered, I point it out in chat. "DRK, you should save Dark Missionary for the raid-wides, not just spam it off cooldown when no damage is happening." Again, I swear I'm not toxic.

"ill take advice but ill pass on the sarcasm," he retorts. Fair point. Alright, stay cool Sapphire, don't say anything that'll make you eat a report. Just focus on getting through this. He's still using Dark Missionary off cooldown when no raid-wides are happening and he's refusing to use three quarters of his kit, but... deep breaths.

Onto the megachonker, Engels. Mostly unremarka—... okay, he's eating the tankbusters with zero mitigation, but at this point that's par for the course. He's still provoking the boss so he's MT and eating autoattacks even though our healers are stressed enough, but that isn't anything new. But then I notice him eating vuln stack after vuln stack, only surviving as long as he is because of the legendary Tank Privilege™. I think I'm starting to realize why our healers seemed to be so distracted in the previous fights.

Engels, dead. Final boss, my precious Nines! At this point, it seems like the PLD from earlier is done with our DRK's shit. "DRK, you wanna MT?" they ask exasperatedly. "sure, i can," Glue-eater replies. Oh please, you've been provoking every boss off that poor PLD throughout the entire raid. Don't play hard to get, we all know you just want us to suffer.

Now, any other people who have tanked this raid knows that Nines' tankbuster isn't anything to sneeze at, as far as normal content is concerned. This is no E4S Stonecrusher, but you still can't take it with no mitigation, because it'll do over 100k and instakill you.

Can you guess what Mister glue-eating DRK tried to do?

So he eats the tankbuster with no mitigation and instantly gets annihilated, of course. Good job, literally no one here was surprised. The PLD instantly picks up aggro and the group recovers.

"lol that did over 100k," the DRK laughs. "no way im living thru that."

NO! NO! THAT'S WHERE I DRAW THE LINE! YOU ARE REFUSING TO USE THE BARE MINIMUM TOOLS OF YOUR KIT, YOU DON'T GET TO JOKE ABOUT DYING. AND YOU DEFINITELY DON'T GET TO INSULT ALL THE DPSES IN THE PARTY FOR DYING CONSTANTLY BECAUSE THE HEALERS ARE TOO BUSY PANICKEDLY BABYSITTING YOUR DUMB OBLIVIOUS ASS TO HEAL THE REST OF US.

I swear to god I'm not toxic.

He revives. He instantly provokes the boss off the PLD, just in time to eat the next tankbuster and die. The cycle continues. We clear, I roll a 14 on the Pod. I leave the instance, injured and Pod-less. The toxicity deepens.

[Endeleon]

So I was running The Grand Cosmos today and the healer was one of those Ultimate Legends who you see dozens of hanging around Limsa. I don't think people with that title are bad, I just notice that there's a trend that people who have that title are more likely to be jerks to other players and just be impatient in general.

The dungeon goes fine for the most part and we eventually get to the last boss and the healer told the samurai to only go to furniture with blue flames, and not with red ones, and I think that that's good at least that they're being helpful, but this is where I end up disagreeing with the healer.

The samurai ended up messing up and dropping red flames on the chandeliers, which, fair enough, honest mistake. Mistake burned up all the chandeliers and only left 2 pieces of the furniture for the tank and healer to take while inevitably me and the samurai ended up dying. Unfortunately the healer decides to get mad over this and only raises me and leaves the samurai dead for the rest of the fight even after I told them it's fine, they're new to the dungeon and to just rez them, and being on the receiving end of such treatment a few times I know it leaves a bad taste in your mouth, especially for the first run of a dungeon for the MSQ when you're really getting into being the WOL, but unfortunately they were just left dead and I finished off the boss with an LB2

Though on the bright side the pet dropped and I ended up taking it from the healer with a 91 roll.

Refusing to raise an incompetent player isn't being rude, especially because as a dps, you probably missed a ton of other annoying crap they did. Raising them would mean probably little dps gain and way more annoyance and babysitting by that healer. Not to mention, the thing I said a few posts above yours? Trusts exist for a reason, and that's to help people who have no situational awareness learn the mechanics before impacting others.

[Ilenya]

I'm honestly still kinda baffled why everyone doesn't run the dungeons the first time with the trusts? Then you can familiarize yourself with the mechanics without harming others. Then after is when you should farm. So odd...

Because I find things more fun with actual players, where we can learn the mechanics together? It feels weird asking that.

Refusing to raise an incompetent player isn't being rude, especially because as a dps, you probably missed a ton of other annoying crap they did. Raising them would mean probably little dps gain and way more annoyance and babysitting by that healer. Not to mention, the thing I said a few posts above yours? Trusts exist for a reason, and that's to help people who have no situational awareness learn the mechanics before impacting others.

Someone being new, not knowing the fight, and basically being punished for not being perfect. No, that is definitely rude. Assuming they are incompetent instead of just making a mistake? Also rude.

[Endeleon]

Because I find things more fun with actual players, where we can learn the mechanics together? It feels weird asking that.

If you are so bad that you ruin the dungeon run tho, maybe you shouldn't.

[PyurBlue]

I'm honestly still kinda baffled why everyone doesn't run the dungeons the first time with the trusts? Then you can familiarize yourself with the mechanics without harming others. Then after is when you should farm. So odd...

I've always found it bizzare that it's expected of people to be familiar with content before going in for the first time, outside of Savage or up maybe. There's nothing wrong with doing a first run with players. Interacting with others is one of the major reasons why I play this game at all.

Because I find things more fun with actual players, where we can learn the mechanics together? It feels weird asking that.

Exactly. I really do dislike putting efficiency before enjoyment. It's totally backwards in my mind, but to each their own.

[Callinon]

I'm honestly still kinda baffled why everyone doesn't run the dungeons the first time with the trusts? Then you can familiarize yourself with the mechanics without harming others. Then after is when you should farm. So odd...

Never did in ARR, HW, or SB... can't imagine why I'd start now.

[Bright-Flower]

Never did in ARR, HW, or SB... can't imagine why I'd start now.

Maybe because we didn't have trusts in those expansions so it wasn't an option?

That said, dungeons don't really require prior knowledge to clear so there's nothing wrong with going into them blind especially when they're new.

[Berteaux_Braumegain]

Just had a Labyrinth of the Ancients party where I was tanking as Warrior. For whatever reason, the Healers just didn't feel like healing, so when we get to the bomb area multiple AOEs are weakening the party and I'm taking multiple hits from Vassago. I manage to tank the thing until it dies with cooldowns and Holmgang, and then I die to an AOE explosion. That's great.

[Malmstrom]

Just got dismissed from Grand Cosmos while I was tanking.

First thing I said was "Slow and steady, only done it once so far."

Healer proceeded to pull everything anyway, so I didn't tank the extra junk.

It earned me a dismissal.

[Dogempire]

I'm honestly still kinda baffled why everyone doesn't run the dungeons the first time with the trusts? Then you can familiarize yourself with the mechanics without harming others. Then after is when you should farm. So odd...

This is just me, but it's because the trust characters don't do much dps and make the run longer.

In Holminster switch and playing as a crappy summoner myself, I was doing about 6.6k and the other scions added up to 7.313k, which isn't that bad but honestly I don't want to spend longer than needed repeating the same mechanics on the same boss just because the dps is too low.