For Love of my Wife

[Antoine_Lenheim]

I mean, thats sad and all and we all wish good health to your wife but thats not an excuse for not doing researches on something as important for her as housing. Its an open information, you can read about it on official housing page of FF14 website or ingame, in your Housing menu in Storeroom status. It clearly says that you will not be able to complete relocation if the total number of items placed BOTH in your estate and stored in your storeroom exceeds 400 indoor and 40 outdoor furnishings. The reason why she was able to relocate from small to medium is because you physically cant break that limit in a small house as even if fully filled it will have 200 estate furnishings and 200 stored. So what truly makes no sense and sorta childish is blaming the system because you didnt made any researches about how that system works first hand. Especially when you making a relocation of such magnitude. You could make researches for your wife, knowing her condition and how important housing is for her. At least now you know that and I wish you best of luck for your next free large. Live and learn I guess.

[Frizze]

So this isnt the answer you want to hear, but you can actually check in game if youre allowed to relocate or not. While on your property open the housing interface. Look under Estate Settings, then Storeroom Status. It gives you a very clear green check mark if your item count falls into the range for relocation. As was already explained, moving from a small to something larger is never an issue because the maximum a small can hold is equal to the relocation limit. But if she had a medium or larger then the combined total number of items can exceed the limit. In that case, you need to move enough of the extras to your inventory(retainers, saddlebag, whatever) that you fall within the limit.

Two other quick points. You keep saying that there are 126 large plots in the game. There are 126 large Shiro plots in the game. I understand that not everyone likes every district, but each one has its own 126. And finally, if the ishgard rebuilding project does lead to housing than its all but guaranteed that before anyone moves in we'll have the zone repaired enough to look around and decide if its somewhere you want to live(plan out a route to get there, etc). So no one will have to go in blind.

With all that said, i am sorry your wife lost out the way she did. I was one of the people who got hit with the lobby error, and couldnt even get in the game until the plot i wanted to move to was taken. Being there and clicking on it just to see that you cant do it, then having someone else swoop in must feel worse. I wish her the best of luck in finding a place she can be happy.

[GoldenVoice]

I think you misunderstand. You don't need to have the items in your storage to move, they can be out in the house. you just need to make sure to not exceed the limit of the relocation requirements. Your wife couldn't move because she had too many items in the storage so it went over the total of 400/40.

He also didn't attack your wife, so no need to be rude and letting your emotions take over. Fact is the information is out there and she should have done research. Yes the system is flawed and it sucks that it happened to your wife but now she knows.
Plenty of people here with issues and we all have to deal with the same system.

OK, I can understand that when you put it that way. It just wasn't clear. Even now trying to find out the information after the fact its hard to understand. its confusing and makes no sense. As for him attacking my wife, don't think he attacked her but his response was insensitive. Hes basically saying my wife was too stupid to look information that she has a reasonable assumption wasn't needed. As i said, she inferred, as have others, that it wouldn't be a clean relocation and that items would simply transfer over the way it did when she went from a small to a medium. But if there's this overly complicated numbers game going on for larger houses the least they could do was to put a reminder int he patch notes for anyone planing on relocating. She reads the patch notes as we all do. I'm not being rude defending my wife he is being rude trying to suggest she wasn't smart enough to think of looking up some obscure fact that she had no cause to think existed from her experience. Plus it still doesn't address the fact that the housing needs more large plots. 126 plots on a server with 10 times that in players is woefully under supplied and creates and antagonistic situation when people are fighting each other for those plots. A perfect example of the flawed system being that lock out. After they made it to where we could only own one house per server the lock out became meaningless except to make torture people who camp out on those plots of high pop servers for hours even days trying to land a plot. For the most part we have enough smalls, we don't need anymore. And lets face it, people only get smalls as a place holder until they can move on to the mediums and large. Even the medium housing is pretty well supplied at this point. If there's going to be new wards there should be more large plots or even large plot only wards, call it a Lords ward or what ever. We play this game, some of us for years now, and accumulate trophies and crafted items and all want the space and freedom to display those achievements The large plot houses shouldn't be just about FC's but a prize to those who play long and hard in the game and earned those plots through the time invested in the game.

[GoldenVoice]

I think you misunderstand. You don't need to have the items in your storage to move, they can be out in the house. you just need to make sure to not exceed the limit of the relocation requirements. Your wife couldn't move because she had too many items in the storage so it went over the total of 400/40.

He also didn't attack your wife, so no need to be rude and letting your emotions take over. Fact is the information is out there and she should have done research. Yes the system is flawed and it sucks that it happened to your wife but now she knows.
Plenty of people here with issues and we all have to deal with the same system.

Besides there are other advantages that large plot owners have over other players that make the disparity frustrating. Having 3 gardens for instance. Why should larges be the only ones to have 3 Gardens? Why cant a small have a large yard or the owner choose to fill their yard with 3 gardens? Large plot owners are given the advantage of cultivating rare items to be sold at high prices. The advantage of more item placements to decorate any way they want inside and out. More room for those who like RP to do what they want weather its creating a BnB like my wife wanted to, or a restaurant which they have walls for now, and any other number of RP motivated looks and themes that would be much more enjoyable with the space to facilitate not just the owner but any and all guests the house. Just saying.

[Antoine_Lenheim]

Why should larges be the only ones to have 3 Gardens? Why cant a small have a large yard or the owner choose to fill their yard with 3 gardens?.

Umm... cause large house costs more money? Like in real life where if you want to have a big house with few bedrooms, large living room, personal yard etc you pay more than for a simple studio or apartment. You comparing 3 mil house to 45-50 mil house, of course they are in advantage x)

[GoldenVoice]

I mean, thats sad and all and we all wish good health to your wife but thats not an excuse for not doing researches on something as important for her as housing. Its an open information, you can read about it on official housing page of FF14 website or ingame, in your Housing menu in Storeroom status. It clearly says that you will not be able to complete relocation if the total number of items placed BOTH in your estate and stored in your storeroom exceeds 400 indoor and 40 outdoor furnishings. The reason why she was able to relocate from small to medium is because you physically cant break that limit in a small house as even if fully filled it will have 200 estate furnishings and 200 stored. So what truly makes no sense and sorta childish is blaming the system because you didnt made any researches about how that system works first hand. Especially when you making a relocation of such magnitude. You could make researches for your wife, knowing her condition and how important housing is for her. At least now you know that and I wish you best of luck for your next free large. Live and learn I guess.

It's all hind sight of course and I can understand that, to a point. But it seems to me that the situation can be simplified if the storage capacity was equal to the item cap. That would ensure that in any given situation items would just store automatically and people can can relocate without incident and in the event that a player doesn't manage to get their plot and upgrade then they don't have to turn around and replace every item they stored for the move and resort their house which, as i said, for some took hours or even days to get the way they wanted. Most of her efforts were in the fund raising. she gamed hard for three weeks to raise the money. At least now she has the money and most likely by the time the next wards come out can afford it two times over. But she doesn't want to move to Ishgard. She wants bright sunny places Like shiro, the beds or the Mist. So next time around instead of a clean path and a clear plan to get her plot, which she would have gotten, she will have to run around waiting to see if anyone moves and HOE she can get there first before someone else does. It's not the same. And if she doesn't make it again it will be another disappointment. She lives with enough disappointments. she earned that plot, she was cheated because of a technicality that shouldn't have existed in the first place had the system been set up with more common sense. You get what I'm saying? That's why I'm hoping they raise the item cap for the houses indoors and out. She likes her Medium, she just wanted more item placements.

[GoldenVoice]

Umm... cause large house costs more money? Like in real life where if you want to have a big house with few bedrooms, large living room, personal yard etc you pay more than for a simple studio or apartment. You comparing 3 mil house to 45-50 mil house, of course they are in advantage x)

People play games to escape the harsh realities of the real world man. Why bring that garbage into the fantasy world? I mean come one, you cant actually raise the dead int he real world now can you? And if you WANT to bring real world logic into this i have seen plenty of small houses with large yards filled with gardens. So why do the small houses have to have small yards? More over, most people have small houses NOT because they cant afford the mediums or large houses but because there aren't enough available for them to get a chance at buying so they CAN have more space and garden allowances.

[ERMITANYO]

Are you guys currently owning a medium house at least, if not mediums pop time to time but just try to check the housing districts regularly, maybe you can divide it, you can check goblet and lavender beds, and your wife can check mist and shiro. I don't have a large plot but the one i own now i did not even expect to acquire since it is located in a spot that i was eyeing the 1st time i reached shirogane.

Just always make sure that the number of furnishings set up in your current house (interior and exterior) has an equal amount of empty slots in your house storage. Good luck and always hope for the best its just a matter of time.

[Antoine_Lenheim]

And if you WANT to bring real world logic into this

Its not even the real world logic, its "you pay/work for priveledges" logic. You want to have a priveledge of owning company workshop in your house -- you pay for it. You want to fill your house with some nice furnishings -- you pay for them or invest a lot of time into leveling crafters. And if you want to have more space for furnishings, you pay again. So if you want to have a priveledge of owning three garden parches, you WILL have to pay for it and you will have to WORK for it by battling others at a placard battle or farming enough gil to buy it from another player, thats how it works. Its good for ingame economy because its a gil sink and it would be unfair to those who spent 50 mil on a large to not have any priveledges at all despite bigger space. They also can have eight vendors in their house, while small house only 4.

So its a common thing and I quite frankly cant understand why it bothers you so much lol.

[Arazehl]

I'm sorry for your wife's physical pain and believe me I understand it completely. Don't feel however that you're the first and only one that made a mistake and paid for that mistake. Many of us have made this mistake in the past. Many have felt their heart drop when they learned what they did or didn't do. It happens. All I can suggest is maybe next time you go into something better armed, with full knowledge and tie up all the loose ends.

Can relocating be improved upon? Just like anything with flaws it has room for improvements. Will it be? At some point and in one way or another. When? In their own good time. Until then, research the in's and out's of what you wish to accomplish. Comfort and encourage your wife in the meantime. It would more helpful then coming here and spilling private information into your wife's agonies to plead a cause of change for a virtual world. It won't change what is in the here and now. It won't make things better, including your wife.

Good luck to you and yours.