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    Why is there a staggered release only for the first tier of Savage and the Ultimates?

    Why not for the second and third tiers of Savage as well?
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    So people have time to experience the MSQ at their own pace without feeling rushed to get to the end. It also gives people time to gear. The second and third tier come out so late, you have plenty of time to get gear from the previous tier as well as finish MSQ.
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    Make SCH great again! Seriously though, we just want our class to be fun and engaging again, not OP, is that too much to ask for?

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    The devs want people to be able to take their time getting through the main story at launch, rather than feeling like they have to rush it to get straight to the endgame. This isn't considered as much of an issue in later patches, since people have had months to catch up.
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    People would guaranteed skip all cutscenes and level up to max as fast as possible for that world's first clear otherwise.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Billythepancake View Post
    So people have time to experience the MSQ at their own pace without feeling rushed to get to the end. It also gives people time to gear. The second and third tier come out so late, you have plenty of time to get gear from the previous tier as well as finish MSQ.
    Quote Originally Posted by TheMightyMollusk View Post
    The devs want people to be able to take their time getting through the main story at launch, rather than feeling like they have to rush it to get straight to the endgame. This isn't considered as much of an issue in later patches, since people have had months to catch up.
    Then why are the Ultimates released at a later date? You can't say 5.2 is when they decide everyone has had enough time to catch up because the 5.3 Ultimate will be released a few weeks later.
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    Aside from giving raiders time to gear up? I assume part of it is making sure that roles are relatively playable after an expansion, which means waiting a patch or two to see what needs to be adjusted. Also because the devs are giving priority to getting the entire expansion running (the part every player will see) and don't have the time to work on an Ultimate (which only high-end raiders will see) until that's settled.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Vnolan View Post
    Then why are the Ultimates released at a later date? You can't say 5.2 is when they decide everyone has had enough time to catch up because the 5.3 Ultimate will be released a few weeks later.
    The 'main' Patches are somewhat prone to have some slight problems on launch day. I think that Ultimate being as hyped as it is, they want to reduce the risk to halt progress with an emergency maintenance.
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    I'm taking Lore way too seriously. And I'm not sorry about that.

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    Writ Mo'gi
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    Potentially to give any possible class changes a chance to be parsed out in a few weeks of Savage content instead of dumping them directly into an Ultimate release and messing it up? That's the best I could come up with.
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    because there's so many content released at the expansion day, msq, sidequest, fates, new jobs, old job reworks, etc
    dev probably want to make sure the player have already adjusted to the new rotation of their job (and maybe get the data needed to adjust some skill potencies/effect), and for the player to get the minimum gear ilv needed before they release the savage mode to ensure it is still clearable, or so...

    we dont even have information about the later savages tho... but I assume because the job changes usually doesn't too radical as the first release of expansion, and we have more than enough time to get the min ilv gear needed.
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    The Savage tiers are staggered because there was a time when they weren't. It was a race to skip as many cutscenes, race around doing quests, as fast as possible. The dev's put so much time into content and it was a waste for both them and raiders. We wanted to do content first, relax with story later.

    Ultimate is later in the tier to stagger content so raiders race to finish then have nothing left they're interested in until next raid patch.

    Yoshi said Savage is no longer for the hardcore players. So we farm our sets and wait for Ultimate. Otherwise, whats the point.
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