Extreme Market Board Undercutting is a Problem. Who ultimately benefits from this?

[Raven2014]

You know you're just losing money that way, right? Unless you only undercut by 1. Lowering a price drastically doesn't actually speed up sales. It's just like real life. When people want to buy something, they already have the money for it. If it isn't selling it's because there is no demand, not because it's too expensive.

lol what?

The people who "willing to pay" is just a subset of the people who "want" set. That means there are plenty who want but not willing to pay - depending on the price. The easiest in game example is glamour. I'm not poor, although whether I'm rich or not depending on who you ask (over 100mil) but I had never pay for map glamour (like Ao Dai, Quintess ...etc...) when they come out. I have a very specific price that I'm willing to pay for these items, and that under 200k.

Would be curious which country you live in since you cite "irl", since it must be one that doesn't follow the economy norm. Either that, or you're a super rich millionaire that have the only factor deciding your purchase is your "want" irregardless of what you have to pay.

[Nabril]

It's everyone's right to undercut anyone they wish. If someone wants to sell something for a loss, that's their right. You don't have the right or the power to stop them. Accept it and move on or buy them out. Your choice.

[KageTokage]

It's everyone's right to undercut anyone they wish. If someone wants to sell something for a loss, that's their right. You don't have the right or the power to stop them. Accept it and move on or buy them out. Your choice.

Except for when they're using undercut bots, in which case no, they shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.

[Vahlnir]

Except for when they're using undercut bots, in which case no, they shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.

I mean, yeah. Bots shouldn't be permitted obviously.

[SerLuke]

Except for when they're using undercut bots, in which case no, they shouldn't be allowed to get away with it.

This literally doesn’t happen

[JohnSpawnVFX]

I didn't even know undercut bots existed.

[NanaWiloh]

I sometimes will post on multiple retainers and undercut myself to help push an Item I want to sell.

[Big_Bap]

I didn't even know undercut bots existed.

Because they don't.

[KageTokage]

This literally doesn’t happen

Trust me, it does, and it's a little silly to think it doesn't when it happens in virtually every MMO on the market. They have bots that can run through the entire MSQ without use of hacks, so making one that simply undercuts people at fixed intervals would comparatively be a joke.

There's at least two players who are known to do so on Cactuar and it's not just me who's noticed.

It's gone past being simple suspicion at this point when one of them is almost constantly DoL botting and observably checks the retainer bell after every single unspoiled node it gathers from (Which is precisely when it does its one gil undercuts) on an endless loop 24/7 following the exact same path to the bell each time.

[Krojack]

your selling in a bots market they spend no effort to get the items so any money made is profit

Pretty much this. I went to check the Ephemeral nodes right before posting this and 1 of the 2 bots I've been reporting for almost a year now are still going at it. I'm sure the other one is off doing some other gather or just bugged out.

SE won't ban max level gather bots.