Congratulations to the additional wards in 5.1!...

[Alyanna_Elingval]

I doubt it's an issue of thinking more FC are trying to get a house than really are. They just want to make certain FCs have a reasonable opportunity get a house first if they want one. A FC house is generally serving more players than an individual house that's limited to owner plus 3 tenants.

No, I'm saying if there were really as many FC companies out there that were desperate for a house to make them put these stipulations in place, what's pictured above would not have been the case. The ward would have filled up within days of the new plots being offered. My ward was that empty until they opened it up to individual buyers.

[Greyhawk]

May the odds be ever in your favor.

Oh, no... I got my house by sheer luck. Ward 1, Plot 22. Yes, it's beachfront. I had managed to log out in front of the house and my character never got reset back to the entrance to Shirogane. However, it took my character a little longer than normal to log in and get it. Just as I logged in and clicked on the placard, the wave of 50+ people were running in a pack to my house and the neighbor. We were SO lucky to get what we did. I had been fighting for a long time to get a house.

I personally agree with the players here who complain bout how hard it is to get housing here. This is the only game I know that makes it something elite and not common place in the game. SWTOR actually did something right with instance housing as did DAoC. Yes, expensive, but not hard to get and everyone had access to housing.

It would be very rough to change housing as it is now, but they could change it moving forward I believe.

[Edax]

Oh, no... I got my house by sheer luck. Ward 1, Plot 22. Yes, it's beachfront. I had managed to log out in front of the house and my character never got reset back to the entrance to Shirogane. However, it took my character a little longer than normal to log in and get it. Just as I logged in and clicked on the placard, the wave of 50+ people were running in a pack to my house and the neighbor. We were SO lucky to get what we did. I had been fighting for a long time to get a house.

I personally agree with the players here who complain bout how hard it is to get housing here. This is the only game I know that makes it something elite and not common place in the game. SWTOR actually did something right with instance housing as did DAoC. Yes, expensive, but not hard to get and everyone had access to housing.

It would be very rough to change housing as it is now, but they could change it moving forward I believe.

Not a fan of the SWTOR housing. My home never felt "real" in the sense that no one ever visited it and I could never make it feel like it was a real living space. Nor did my SWTOR house have any practical uses unlike in FFXIV.

That said I've been through the Shirogane debacle and I know that unfortunately that 9 new wards were completely taken within 10 minutes (I myself couldn't log in time because the launcher kept crashing on me) They're adding 12 new wards now and at least a single player can't just go around buying multiple houses like in 4.1, but I still predict my server being completely full within the first hour. Coming sunrise I think the forum will be awash with angry and disappointed players.

[NaoTenbe]

It honestly feels like there's a lot more they COULD do, but that they're trying to hold onto older mechanics to satisfy some feeling of elitism.
There's still a lot here that feels back asswards. Having to kick people out for not visiting their house (even if they have tenants who can do that for them, or if they still have a sub, but just don't want to play the game for a while).
There's the 'can't leave the FC if you can't get your stuff out of your room but the FC has locked you out of the house' problem that was NEVER fixed.
and just... it seems they could allow most people access to a basic house and land.
That's the big thing, having an area where people can visit and get an idea of who you are, and would your house be worth investigating, by what you put on the property.

[RenofManyAlts]

(even if they have tenants who can do that for them [...]).

Tiny point of clarification, so new folks reading don't get potentially confused: tenants cannot reset the auto-demolition timer on a private estate. Only the character whose name is on the placard can do that. (By contrast, any FC member can reset the timer by zoning into the FC house.)

The system is definitely rough, and I hope that SE can put together a solution so that people who want access to housing and its features are able to do so -- without all the stress involved in the current system on more populated worlds. It has been a lot of trial and error so far, and seemingly two playerbases (JP and NA/EU) who interact very differently with the system. (I'm not sure that anybody predicted that players would feel compelled to sit there and click mindlessly for hours upon hours, and yet that is what happened.)

[Greyhawk]

Not a fan of the SWTOR housing. My home never felt "real" in the sense that no one ever visited it and I could never make it feel like it was a real living space. Nor did my SWTOR house have any practical uses unlike in FFXIV.

That said I've been through the Shirogane debacle and I know that unfortunately that 9 new wards were completely taken within 10 minutes (I myself couldn't log in time because the launcher kept crashing on me) They're adding 12 new wards now and at least a single player can't just go around buying multiple houses like in 4.1, but I still predict my server being completely full within the first hour. Coming sunrise I think the forum will be awash with angry and disappointed players.

Merely throwing SWTOR in there for the instancing. The hooks in those were horrible and a lot of that made no sense really. It was a rushed job, but instancing of the housing itself was good. DAoC was much better and that's an old game, but the housing areas were easily 10 times larger than what we have in FFXIV and there were no hooks, you could place what you want where you wanted it. The 'wards' there were much like what we have now, but actually really, really, huge areas. There were also consignment merchants so there were reasons for visiting - to buy what you were looking for after you found it on the market. It has a rent system that you had to pay, but at least someone could pay that for you either weekly or monthly, and it wasn't over the top. 4 different tiers of housing also made it nice to upgrade your plot and not be tied down to single plot locations. Mythic really thought it out well.

People rarely visit any housing as it is now so what would change? Not a lot really. If you have FC/friends that visit you there wouldn't be anything to still keep them coming to your house.

[Midlithe]

Very excited about this!

[Arazehl]

There will be some houses left as before, but they will most all be smalls. Since they announced housing in advance there will be people making nonsense fc's to rank it to 8, so they can work around that fc purchases first clause. Then once they have their house their buddies who help them create the fc will be long gone. They will sit on their house looking like an fc with only 1 member. Hmmm.

SE added more wards but failed to close up the loop holes again. They need to do something about the false FC that are buying houses.

[Big_Bap]

There will be some houses left as before, but they will most all be smalls. Since they announced housing in advance there will be people making nonsense fc's to rank it to 8, so they can work around that fc purchases first clause. Then once they have their house their buddies who help them create the fc will be long gone. They will sit on their house looking like an fc with only 1 member. Hmmm.

SE added more wards but failed to close up the loop holes again. They need to do something about the false FC that are buying houses.

Implying there are even loopholes left. Get informed.

[EssenceFlux]

So long as you are hoarding houses and wards, please refrain from commenting to anything I post again.

As the black market kingpin, you know and abuse what loopholes you can.

Refrain. I will not ask a second time.