SE needs to listen, to improve FFXIV

[Elladie]

Exactly. I get that. New players will have an abundance of stuff to do to the point where it feels overwhelming and SE tends to cater to that demographic moreso than the long-time players.

I have been playing since 1.0 and I still have massive amounts to do in the game. I don't do Savage either. I have 4 battle jobs at 80 but only one is properly geared, my BTN is 80 but needs a lot of gear/material, no crafters at 80 yet. I have all my trusts to finish levelling, an Amaro mount to get, all my FATEs to max in the First areas. And 5.1 is ONLY JUST AROUND THE CORNER OMG!!!

I play every day pretty much unless RL dictates otherwise. Couple of hours at night in the week, 4-5 hours at the weekend. So, yeah, there is loads to do. If you don't want to do any of that, it's fine, but please don't say there is nothing to do

[Camiie]

This is what happens if you cater to all the casuals tbh.

Casuals subsidize your experience. How much are you willing to pay to be casual free? $150 per month? $1,500? $15,000?

[DumdogsWorld]

We do need to acknowledge the differences between flaws and intentional frustrations, though. Square Enix has been, as of late, working on tons of QoL improvements that were only left to the imagination years ago. On top of that, they're planning on soon condensing the ARR story quests. Those are two of the most common complaints right there, being addressed.

However, you can't always cater to a "more players is better, no matter what the cost" mentality. Do you really want people who can't stand blood and gore playing first person shooters? They aren't the customer base. They aren't the audience.

Some of the things that are deemed frustrating by some people are here to stay. That's okay. The question is, how can Square Enix make FFXIV better at being FFXIV?

[HyoMinPark]

I'll give one example:
SE designs this new 2-chest lockout system which is good for statics but much less so for everyone else.
2-chests is a major sorting condition for most PF parties, yet there is no option in PF settings to differ that.

You do realize that most weekly clear PFs list the chest they want to go for, right? “Weekly 2-chest”; “1 chest”; “no chests”. I’ve never seen an issue with players listing the number of chests within the Party Finder description, since the chests are primarily what players are interested in. While a checkbox toggle would be nice, there are still descriptions that distinguish 2-chest parties from the other parties. If a PF doesn’t have a description dictating the number of chests the party will have, you can also just /tell the party leader and find out.

This seems like a very small thing to go on a rant about. It’s a QoL feature at best—but it certainly doesn’t hinder you in finding PFs for Savage. As I said in your other thread, the only way players generally struggle to find 2-chest parties are when they wait to run the content until Monday night, 3 hours before reset.

[KageTokage]

I feel like one of the biggest problems with getting change to happen is that there is some very definite bias towards the JP side of things when it comes getting any communication to go through properly.

Case in point: random tiny two page topic about the RMT bots on the JP forums gets a STF representative to respond to it and claim that they're trying to step up their measures (Which I have actually noticed as of late with ban waves occurring more frequently). Meanwhile, we haven't gotten a peep from anyone despite having dozens of multi-page topics on subject throughout the course of the average year.

Maybe if we get the JP players to notice all the DoL/H/whatever bots on their servers they'll start doing something about those, too.

[yukiiyuki]

I have been playing since 1.0 and I still have massive amounts to do in the game. I don't do Savage either. I have 4 battle jobs at 80 but only one is properly geared, my BTN is 80 but needs a lot of gear/material, no crafters at 80 yet. I have all my trusts to finish levelling, an Amaro mount to get, all my FATEs to max in the First areas. And 5.1 is ONLY JUST AROUND THE CORNER OMG!!!

I play every day pretty much unless RL dictates otherwise. Couple of hours at night in the week, 4-5 hours at the weekend. So, yeah, there is loads to do. If you don't want to do any of that, it's fine, but please don't say there is nothing to do

I think he's talking about actual endgame PVE and PVP content, not "dancing in Limsa is content as well" one.

[Elladie]

I think he's talking about actual endgame PVE and PVP content, not "dancing in Limsa is content as well" one.

He stated he doesn't do Savage which - as far as I am aware - is what folks who have 'finished' the game call 'endgame'. I have 'finished' the game too in as much as I have got to the end of the current MSQ. Like this poster you are referencing, I don't do Savage either. But I find more than enough to do, and it certainly isn't 'dancing in Limsa'. Please don't dismiss content on the basis that it doesn't appeal to you and therefore must be just 'fluff'

[Skivvy]

This dude wants a I win button and I hate you and want to ban you button.

Look at point 7. He is so lazy the concept of clicking multiple buttons is to much for him to handle and feels the developers need to spend money to fix this problem. That is literally insane clicking buttons is a legitimate complaint? FFS.

Of all the points to try and insult over, this one seems kinda weak. Other games have "auto-loot" and it's quite nice. If a person is always clicking greed (I do if I'm not looking for leveling gear or glams), it would be nice to just be able to set it that way for a run.

Also, little tiny fixes fit into a category called Quality of Life updates. A good portion of QoL items look like it wouldn't be worth time and effort, but they can make such a big difference in the overall enjoyment of a game.

[Sclair0]

I agree with your general point OP. Though without you offering specifics I have no idea if we'd agree on what we think needs working on in the game or not.

I generally think the developers are relatively in tune with the community, but like, in slow motion, or slightly faster slow motion when it comes to the Japanese community. They are seemingly addressing the most glaring bullets-in-the-engine problem now of the 2.x content.

I'd like to see them try to add more things that new players can engage with early on in the game to keep them interested (New level-sync questlines in old areas would be nice)

[RoyalBeef]

Ofc PF for savage is dead on the weekend, since everyone who PUGs it and knows what they're doing gets their clears on tuesday or wednesday. The further down the week, the more skilled players have already cleared and go to do other things, so PUGs become more and more of a sh*tshow of "leftover" people struggling with clearing, or you get helpers who already cleared so there is less loot, 0 chests if you get unlucky. Waiting till the weekend for pugging is literally the worst thing you can do.