Quote Originally Posted by Verlyn View Post


I\\'d disagree on the lore bit. Most jobs are designed around their lore or flavor, more than what the job is in other games in most respects. AST used to be like that, but now none of the cards do anything like what they represent, they lost several time-and-card-related abilities and basic gameplay boils down to using spells that are interchangeable with the other two healers. I\\'m not saying WHM and SCH are currently bastions of great design either, but AST feels less like an Astrologian than Scholar feels like a Scholar. And while it\\'s fine from a pure \\'I\\'ll use this in a raid\\' perspective, that\\'s still a failure of design.

Well, just having them do damage % isn\\'t that interesting by comparison but I\\'m gonna agree that consistency is probably more important. So given that, the seal system is probably the biggest issue since it creates inconsistency where it is unnecessary and where it doesn\\'t engage you (in fact, it just seems like the old system except less impactful). But I honestly don\\'t know how I\\'d fix it without gutting the whole thing and making it even blander, either -.-.

BTW, I\\'m liking your other comments because this discussion is cool. Thank you for engaging me on it.
Raid DPS is most important because balancing raids has to be their priority. No matter what, all classes can perform well in story/normal content, so they try to balance for high end content, where balance makes a noticeable difference. In the future I wouldn\\'t mind then scaling HP on mobs depending on what job is being used for content.

WHM and SCH are currently ahead of it. WHM mostly, but SCH isn\\'t too far ahead of it. That doesn\\'t necessarily necessitate a buff. There is an inherent problem wherein buffing AST now will result in it needing nerf later. % DPS increases, such as Divination/cards will scale a lot better as the expansion goes. AST will likely end up being a bit better than WHM by the end of the expansion. Buffing it now is a band-aid fix, but would need adjustments later as well.

AST at the moment is very good from a DPS and raid DPS standpoint. Being the least raid DPS doesn\\'t make it bad, it just makes it lower. Like, say, if one tank does 8k, the others do 7,950, 7935, 7920. The 7920 is the worst, but it\\'s not by a significant margin. I would worry about buffing AST because of its potential later.

You also have the problem of the stigma around it. Most high level players now are opting into playing WHM, so we aren\\'t seeing AST played at it\\'s potential rdps wise.

I don't think SCH\\'s kit revolves around the fairy. Embrace is basically random now. You only use WD, FI, and consolation with seraph. SCH revolves more around Aetherflow than fairy. It always has, by back in the day the fairy was a lot stronger. Even the gauge for SCH is really disappointing.