Tactful ways to inform people that they're playing badly?

[Miracle_Diva]

would a new player know to do that?

Know what? How to google?

[Liam_Harper]

Know what? How to google?

This sort of comment is what the thread's about. You're replying regarding a new player 2 months into the game, always open to advice and the welcoming ff14 communities response is "lol can't even google". The same unhelpful sarcastic comments are why "bad" players don't listen in dungeons.

If a player being fully open to advice and tips isn't good enough for you, what on earth do you want?

[Miracle_Diva]

This sort of comment is what the thread's about. You're replying regarding a new player 2 months into the game, always open to advice and the welcoming ff14 communities response is "lol can't even google". The same unhelpful sarcastic comments are why "bad" players don't listen in dungeons.

If a player being fully open to advice and tips isn't good enough for you, what on earth do you want?

I don't see a problem. You can find ANY info on the Internet. If you don't understand something irl, you ask someone who knows or you Google it. Not everyone has time to babysit every new player they meet. Not every new player will even try to listen to more experienced one at all.
Some new player get so used to others jumping around them left and right (*but new player*) so they don't even try to learn anything about the game themselves. And then we see these *aw he's a new player* at lvl 80 doing less dps than a healer. But ofc you're not allowed to tell them that they are not doing well and need to change things. And they get kicked silently. Because by the time you get to 80 you SHOULD know basics and rotation of the class you play. And you can find that info on the Internet. If you're interested enough.
Don't get me wrong, I respect every player in this game, new, veterans, etc and I understand that everyone needs their time. But as myself being new back in HW I was looking for every bit of info I could get, Google, people in DF, asking friends. Because I didn't want to be a burden for people who played that game for years, so finding info is not hard.

[Dreakon13]

I don't see a problem. You can find ANY info on the Internet. If you don't understand something irl, you ask someone who knows or you Google it. Not everyone has time to babysit every new player they meet. Not every new player will even try to listen to more experienced one at all.
Some new player get so used to others jumping around them left and right (*but new player*) so they don't even try to learn anything about the game themselves. And then we see these *aw he's a new player* at lvl 80 doing less dps than a healer. But ofc you're not allowed to tell them that they are not doing well and need to change things. And they get kicked silently. Because by the time you get to 80 you SHOULD know basics and rotation of the class you play. And you can find that info on the Internet. If you're interested enough.
Don't get me wrong, I respect every player in this game, new, veterans, etc and I understand that everyone needs their time. But as myself being new back in HW I was looking for every bit of info I could get, Google, people in DF, asking friends. Because I didn't want to be a burden for people who played that game for years, so finding info is not hard.

You realize the post you quoted wasn't really talking about a hypothetical crappy level 80 DPS right? He was talking about you being catty with a new player on the forums... a new player who by all accounts tries to be the considerate player you claim to respect. Deflecting to justify your poor behavior here is petty... and I agree, probably indicative of your behavior in-game too.

Which explains a lot... explains a lot of the posts here of the heroic vet players "trying" to help the lowlife, unappreciative new players.

[Nora_of_Mira]

You realize the post you quoted wasn't really talking about a hypothetical crappy level 80 DPS right? He was talking about you being catty with a new player on the forums... a new player who by all accounts tries to be the considerate player you claim to respect. Deflecting to justify your poor behavior here is petty... and I agree, probably indicative of your behavior in-game too.

Which explains a lot... explains a lot of the posts here of the heroic vet players "trying" to help the lowlife, unappreciative new players.

you will find that the community in-game is a lot less toxic than the forums and is generally more helpful, assuming you find them/join a good FC or linkshell.

[Dreakon13]

you will find that the community in-game is a lot less toxic than the forums and is generally more helpful, assuming you find them/join a good FC or linkshell.

Honestly, I don't think I've met a single nasty person in the game yet. And I've met a few outstandingly nice people. And that's just from the duty finder really. So I believe it. But I'm only ~level 40-50 and I'm still doing level 30-40 MSQ content so there's plenty of opportunity still for that to change lol.