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    Alucard135's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by SaberMaxwell View Post
    Lucid doesn't aggro cut anymore, to my knowledge.
    It doesn't. DPS don't have skills to reduce aggro anymore, so enmity can point out which DPS is doing less than the other DPS.
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    It doesn't. DPS don't have skills to reduce aggro anymore, so enmity can point out which DPS is doing less than the other DPS.
    Kind of... enmity doesn't take into account buffs from others, and it's a strict ranking rather than an actual gauge of anything other than how much enmity has been generated against this target. One tank death or one add phase and it becomes a totally useless measure of dps.

    No, if you want to measure dps, measure it.
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    Deithwen Feainnewedd
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    Kind of... enmity doesn't take into account buffs from others, and it's a strict ranking rather than an actual gauge of anything other than how much enmity has been generated against this target. One tank death or one add phase and it becomes a totally useless measure of dps.

    No, if you want to measure dps, measure it.
    Also, it only provides relative measurement at best. Like, oh nice I'm second in aggro as a DPS, I must be doing great ! Whereas in reality, both DPS do an absolutely terrible job and barely reach 50% of what DPS output they could do, it's just that one is a Sam and buffed by the other, a Dancer.

    As you said, and you are completely right, if one wants to know his DPS, there is no other way than to measure it, properly and accurately, with the proper tools.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deithwen View Post
    Also, it only provides relative measurement at best. Like, oh nice I'm second in aggro as a DPS, I must be doing great ! Whereas in reality, both DPS do an absolutely terrible job and barely reach 50% of what DPS output they could do, it's just that one is a Sam and buffed by the other, a Dancer.
    That's just being technical. If a DPS only doing 50% of required damage and are 2nd on enmity, then that means the whole group (including the tanks and healers) are being terrible, and you would be like 50% behind of the fight which will be very noticeable. This kind of hyperbolic argument while techinically is correct, is meaningless in term of practical situation.

    Is it a perfect tool? No. But a good metric for estimation in 90% of case it still is.
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