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  1. #23291
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    RoyalBeef's Avatar
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    Machinist Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Then you don't understand how percentages work.

    If you're doing say, 1000 damage, and the other DPS is doing 500 damage, then that buff is going to be TWICE as effective on YOU, making the dungeon go quicker.
    Given that an ASTs buffs are the ASTs form of damage, they are going to put it on the most effective DPS for more damage.
    You're arguing aginst someone who asserts their dominance by running content that's at least 50 ilvls below him and outdpsing players that are 50 ilvls below him in that content
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  2. #23292
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    White Mage Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by Anselmet View Post
    You know what, we were being a tad mean to that person. Granted, they were feeding us with their off the wall posts which we all descended upon pretty roughly. But what I don't understand is why so many people are coming out of the woodworks to say that you're really mean on the forums. I half wonder if they're getting you mixed up with Wynn Storm. Bc other than having strong opinions I don't remember you being anywhere near as mean as we have been in the last few pages. Or at least not in recent memory I haven't seen much and I even just glanced through your recent posts. Hmm.
    Honestly so what if they don't like peloton? It's not like we are talking about someone who is purposefully not using abilities, because they don't think the animation is cool enough. Blown way out of proportion, there were like 6 pages filled with it instead of stories, and 2 of this. I'll add, when I criticize someone in-game, I am frank, and to the point. If they have bad gear, I say "you need better gear", not doing aoe "why aren't you using aoe?". If we wipe, unless they something I say nothing, and keep pulling as tank, if we wipe and I feel like it was my fault I say "I'm sorry" or "my bad", sometimes I'll even explain "I should have been focusing on this or this instead of this or this" etc. I am sarcastic, not mean.

    Quote Originally Posted by Seraphor View Post
    Then you don't understand how percentages work.

    If you're doing say, 1000 damage, and the other DPS is doing 500 damage, then that buff is going to be TWICE as effective on YOU, making the dungeon go quicker.
    Given that an ASTs buffs are the ASTs form of damage, they are going to put it on the most effective DPS for more damage.
    Of course. Let's end this here, I wanna see some actual stories. Don't get me wrong, I love the attention, but I can't bask in it all the time. I'd rather have the attention on my butt-kicking au ra screenshots, but nobody ever likes those.

    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalBeef View Post
    You're arguing aginst someone who asserts their dominance by running content that's at least 50 ilvls below him and outdpsing players that are 50 ilvls below him in that content
    Congratulations! You found the joke!

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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 08-23-2019 at 08:55 PM.

  3. #23293
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    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    Congratulations! You found the joke!
    ^^ Honestly, these days reality is often times more ridiculous than any joke or satire, so it became almost impossible to tell the difference
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  4. #23294
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    DumdogsWorld's Avatar
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    W'kohrahx Tia
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    Balmung
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    Dragoon Lv 80
    And here I was, thinking I was the only one that the forum hated.

    I have no right to tell any of you what to do, but please stop arguing about unrelated stuff in this thread, of all threads.
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  5. #23295
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    Marilith
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    Quote Originally Posted by RoyalBeef View Post
    ^^ Honestly, these days reality is often times more ridiculous than any joke or satire, so it became almost impossible to tell the difference
    That's exactly why have taken up my attitude. The community is just a bonus. In-game, duty finder has so many ridiculous happenings on the daily. I usually only post about the standouts. I go in expecting a bad experience every time. One reason why I don't bother kicking players, and another reason why I won't leave. Like, if I leave I have a 30 minute timer, then I'll have to wait on a queue, and then what if my new group is even worse, or the player is worse? You never know, so I don't bother; not worth it. I Complain and joke about it occasionally in this thread, and all the time with my friend over discord. Those conversations I would love to share, but I would be banned on the spot for them.

    Also, for the record last time I leveled a DPS through all the ShB dungeons, I know for a fact I was actually pulling considerably higher than most people I have seen in dungeons on the reg.. Just an educated hunch.
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    Last edited by SturmChurro; 08-23-2019 at 09:20 PM.
    WHM | RDM | DNC

  6. #23296
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    Endeleon's Avatar
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    Amethyst Loire
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    Faerie
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    Paladin Lv 55
    Decided to finally level Dragoon, sitting around level 35 and try a levelling roulette. Got Sastasha... fine I guess. PLD/SCH/PGL/DRG Everything seems fine, tank puts their stance on and off we go. Tank pulls two groups, thats pretty good considering PLD is only one with AOEs.

    Mid fight, PGL runs off to look at the Red, blue or green note, or so I thought. We finish without him. Make our way to the Jellyfish, tank pulls two groups again, when the PGL sprints by and pulls everything in the Clam caves. Tank doesn't say anything, but I say what the hell... Scholar replies? "Don't be pissy, I am fine with it." Ok but it's more about what the tank feels and not what you feel. But whatever, I shut my mouth. PGL dies of course.

    We get to the Coeurl boss and wait for the PGL to get the right color coral. And wait. and wait. Finally I just pick one at random and the tank does too. We keep moving only for the PGL to keep pulling everything, tank stop outside the Captain+dogs boss and says the classic "You pull em you tank em". PGL then stops doing anything and I struggle along to kill it all because Scholar is only casting heals.

    PLD left after the fight of course, which I then also bailed. I will never understand why people do this. If you don't even have an AOE skill, what do you think pulling a ton of enemies will accomplish?!
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  7. #23297
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    Mikhaill's Avatar
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    Xetsu Mitsuhara
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    Goblin
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    Marauder Lv 70
    Do people purposely try and kill DRGS? O_o
    Everyone seems to make it their mission to kill me as a DRG.
    And I never really see any of them anymore...
    Maybe they're tired of this meme life lol...
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  8. #23298
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    Ghishlain's Avatar
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    Ghishlain Pyrial
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    Mateus
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I know it's just RNG but holy crap EXDR, please stop giving me the final MSQ dungeon ;-; I think I've had it selected ten times in a row via EXDR now.
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  9. #23299
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    Callinon Soulforge
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    Ultros
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    Dancer Lv 90
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
    So, I'd like opinions on this particular thing I'm doing every time I run The twinning, and I'd like to know if it's basically a good or bad thing. Here we go.

    So the first boss right, has a the stack marker that leaves the dot aoe on the ground. If I recall correctly, these burns only stay on your chr if you stay in the ground aoe. Sometimes when I run The Twinning, I will get the second stack marker (usually as dps). What I like to do is staying on that ground aoe with the stack marker, that way it just stays in one place and we have more room in the arena to deal with everything else. Problem is...I don't think anyone shares that mentality and rightfully so. The only reason I bring it up now is because I think I may have caused a potential fart across the party when they saw me just standing in the fire and no one followed me. "Omg, another player who doesn't know how stack works" they probably thought, meanwhile, I'm just like "Come on into the fire for a couple more seconds guys, it's great!"

    Does what I do outweigh the pros? Does it have more cons? Should I just play it safe next time and just drop the second marker elsewhere? (Just for reference, I do this when the first aoe is dropped near the top because the tank usually gets it first).

    It feels to me like it should be obvious but maybe I'm the only one who thinks so.
    Technically this method is the objectively-correct way to handle the mechanic, especially with the limited usable space in that encounter. Unfortunately you're going to find that DF parties, by and large, aren't going to want anything to do with it because players are trained to specifically not stand in things like that.
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  10. #23300
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    Noitems Ever
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    Goblin
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    Gunbreaker Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by SenorPatty View Post
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    Generally when I tank it the first is placed behind the boss where I stand with the stack. Then if I get marked I generally try placing to the west side of the first ground aoe. Then I'll move the boss to the front and tank him near where the chest would spawn. So melee can have a safe place for positionals (which I'll help mitigate if there are two in the party) and can even stand still to eat the jumping aoe he does. I never checked how much damage standing in the fire aoe would do to have it stacked twice, but I would assume on impulse people would leave immediately and it would throw a plan out the window.
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