[Spoilers] Death and reincarnation

[QT_Melon]

Well going back with Ifrit, if a primal can...it seems they will try to temper in proximity.

I would even dare say that we are in fact tempered by Hydaelyn which prevents us being tempered by other primals - BUT she tempers with free will "Hear Feel Think" basically that's how it's circumvented. We're tempered WITH free will - preventing further temperings if I'm guessing correctly

As far as the dialog goes - https://pastebin.com/ffXVNJsM In answering what's going on with the sundered Ascians.

[LineageRazor]

As far as the dialog goes - https://pastebin.com/ffXVNJsM In answering what's going on with the sundered Ascians.

I tihnk I somehow missed that last one! That said, it didn't tell me much I hadn't already guessed, and still leaves room for a lot of questions. Soul fragments from the original Convocation make "better" Ascians - but why? Is it because they're Tempered? Because their memories can be restored, and they're naturally on board with Plan Zodiark (since they were originally)? How much choice to the Big Three give these fragmented Ascians in joining the cause - and has any ever tried to say "No, I have a husband and children, and I want no part of this!"?

I don't think I've seen anyone else (certainly in this thread at least) say that Zodiark was demanding sacrifices. It is nevertheless fact that sacrifices were being made to Him, however willingly and regardless of who was instigating the plan.

It's at least as likely that it was the idea of the Convocation, which is how most people here seem to be describing it.

Indeed, it seems to be the overwhelming opinion of posters on this forum that Zodiark is likely NOT evil, but simply doing what he was tasked to do. If there's any evil involved, it would be on the part of the Convocation of Thirteen, when they decided to sacrifice the New Life to revive the Old - the first time that sacrifices were involved that were not VOLUNTARY. And even that is only debatably evil; the Convocation didn't consider this new life to be "true" life, and it's unclear whether any of the new life forms were intelligent creatures.

Right now, the general feel of discussion is that Zodiark is not necessarily evil, even if the things he was designed to do might be considered so. As for Hydaelyn, most consider her to still be good - but she, too, was created to perform certain tasks, and some of those tasks may have been kind of horrible. Given that Zodiark was also created to do horrible things for good intentions, the two of them may be more alike than we think...