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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    This will be the last time I repeat myself. Fordola is the positive test result. She was proven nigh invincible in combat. That alone is enough for the technology to be worth looking into. The idea that The Empire would not know of this completely game-changing technology they themselves funded and researched would be just be proof positive the Empire is hopelessly incompetent.
    From what I recall other there's been other test subjects but they were unsuccessful, Fordola is their most successful test subject next to Zenos however she is also suffering immensely due to not being able to tune out all the voices of everyone who's suffered. The facility that gave her the gift was taken over by rebels so any research would now also be in rebel hands, plus they also needed prisoners already possessed of the gift in order to use the facility in the first place and since everyone with the gift are members of the Scions they haven't had any luck in capturing any more prisoners possessed of the gift as of yet. Since their war efforts were being spent on the production of the Black Rose toxin they've not had the time or manpower to devote a team into creating super soldiers. Varis was just as eager as the Ascians to bring about the next calamity under the pretense that he would be spared and become part of the new world.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Apparently technological immortality is just that easy to develop. Accidently.
    And apparently technological immortality is just that easy to be lost. Because only one guy worked on it apparently.
    These are the people who know Zenos is nigh immortal(We will kill him eventually just when):
    1. Elidibus
    2. Varis
    3. Estinien
    4. Gauis
    5. Zenos

    So how was Garlemald suppose to know they had created a near immortal being(and who is to say the other experiments Varis had used on Zenos didn't have any effect) when their leader and a deserter are the only 2 garleans besides Zenos who know so from anyone looking at the Resonant project they would deem it a failure.

    A failure until Zenos makes a proclamation, he may very well ask the project be resumed in a way to make himself more powerful to fight us and once people see what it can produce, curiosity will take over and others will try and get it for themselves(Immortality is a high reward people would be willing to pay for) so right now the Resonant project could fade away or be brought back in the limelight who knows at this point except the writers/Yoshi.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crushnight View Post
    These are the people who know Zenos is nigh immortal(We will kill him eventually just when):
    1. Elidibus
    2. Varis
    3. Estinien
    4. Gauis
    5. Zenos

    So how was Garlemald suppose to know they had created a near immortal being(and who is to say the other experiments Varis had used on Zenos didn't have any effect) when their leader and a deserter are the only 2 garleans besides Zenos who know so from anyone looking at the Resonant project they would deem it a failure.

    A failure until Zenos makes a proclamation, he may very well ask the project be resumed in a way to make himself more powerful to fight us and once people see what it can produce, curiosity will take over and others will try and get it for themselves(Immortality is a high reward people would be willing to pay for) so right now the Resonant project could fade away or be brought back in the limelight who knows at this point except the writers/Yoshi.
    Because creating technology that makes people immortal shouldn't be accidental. It's a ridiculous concept. On top of that, creating revolutionary technology shouldn't be handled by a single man. It's a ridiculous concept. On top of that, this one man was being lavished with funds by the Empire and had large custom built equipment so the idea that only the head researcher would know anything is a ridiculous concept. The idea that none of the staff working on the project had to file any reports or make any effort to preserve their data on their revolutionary technology that the Empire was paying for is a ridiculous concept. And the idea that the only people who know about their own revolutionary technology be the "enemy" is absolutely ridiculous.

    Quote Originally Posted by geekgirl101 View Post
    From what I recall other there's been other test subjects but they were unsuccessful, Fordola is their most successful test subject next to Zenos however she is also suffering immensely due to not being able to tune out all the voices of everyone who's suffered. The facility that gave her the gift was taken over by rebels so any research would now also be in rebel hands, plus they also needed prisoners already possessed of the gift in order to use the facility in the first place and since everyone with the gift are members of the Scions they haven't had any luck in capturing any more prisoners possessed of the gift as of yet. Since their war efforts were being spent on the production of the Black Rose toxin they've not had the time or manpower to devote a team into creating super soldiers. Varis was just as eager as the Ascians to bring about the next calamity under the pretense that he would be spared and become part of the new world.

    In the logic of the story, that makes sense, however using common sense the scenario is completely ham-fisted. The Empire apparently could make people immortal, but apparently didn't know about it. The Empire could make super-soldiers, but apparently didn't care about it. They had one man working on the most important technological advancement the Empire has ever seen and apparently nobody thought to try and preserve his research data at any point during the project. The Empire's gimmick is technology, so to see this scenario where they invent the most awesome thing ever while also not caring even slightly about while also letting the "enemy" get a hold of it comes off as very poor writing.

    Also I'm not sure the logic that the Empire doesn't have the manpower or that Black Rose requires a great deal of manpower holds up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    Apparently technological immortality is just that easy to develop. Accidently.
    And apparently technological immortality is just that easy to be lost. Because only one guy worked on it apparently.
    Unexpected results do happen.

    Given as Zenos probably only started developing Resonance after getting to Ala Mhigo (he was inspired by Gaius' reports), and the project was an extension of Aulus' brainchild, I seriously doubt the rest of the Empire knows about what they were doing (except for Varis). Aulus was lambasted by the Imperial court except for Zenos. While Aulus did have assistants, it's pretty unlikely his research reports and notes were received by the greater Empire because they thought he was a crackpot and as far as we know his attempts at genetic modification were unsuccessful.

    ... and again nobody, not even Elidibus, even considered that his Resonance would give Zenos Ascian-style immortality or was aware that had happened until he attacked the Imperial palace. Even Zenos himself was surprised.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cilia View Post
    Unexpected results do happen.

    Given as Zenos probably only started developing Resonance after getting to Ala Mhigo (he was inspired by Gaius' reports), and the project was an extension of Aulus' brainchild, I seriously doubt the rest of the Empire knows about what they were doing (except for Varis). Aulus was lambasted by the Imperial court except for Zenos. While Aulus did have assistants, it's pretty unlikely his research reports and notes were received by the greater Empire because they thought he was a crackpot and as far as we know his attempts at genetic modification were unsuccessful.

    ... and again nobody, not even Elidibus, even considered that his Resonance would give Zenos Ascian-style immortality or was aware that had happened until he attacked the Imperial palace. Even Zenos himself was surprised.
    I can't for The Bismarck restaurant to accidently cook a hot dog capable of destroying Zodiark.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I can't for The Bismarck restaurant to accidently cook a hot dog capable of destroying Zodiark.

    No matter how implausible or improbable, this statement is always technically true.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    I can't for The Bismarck restaurant to accidently cook a hot dog capable of destroying Zodiark.
    Given a sufficient amount of aether it should be possible to create a Bismarck Hot Dog of Light combined with Hydaelyn's Sundering capabilities to smash Zodiark until he is too dispersed to maintain existent and just fizzles out. If we could also find, or make, some primal with an inherent ability to siphon energy from enemy targets to mix in with this then we could create something that would basically sunder the target, take the aether of the split off part to sustain the constant smashing till enemy existence failure.

    Much like the Dividing Gear from High School DxD. Which could literally divide enemies out of existence and every time it divides the enemy it steals one of the halves of the divided energy.

    It would not be the first time a joke weapon was the ultimate weapon in a game.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TankHunter678 View Post
    Given a sufficient amount of aether it should be possible to create a Bismarck Hot Dog of Light combined with Hydaelyn's Sundering capabilities to smash Zodiark until he is too dispersed to maintain existent and just fizzles out. If we could also find, or make, some primal with an inherent ability to siphon energy from enemy targets to mix in with this then we could create something that would basically sunder the target, take the aether of the split off part to sustain the constant smashing till enemy existence failure.

    Much like the Dividing Gear from High School DxD. Which could literally divide enemies out of existence and every time it divides the enemy it steals one of the halves of the divided energy.

    It would not be the first time a joke weapon was the ultimate weapon in a game.
    What a way to end a storyline...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edax View Post
    What a way to end a storyline...

    That's heck of a hotdog tho...



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    Trouble is, that might become the hotdog that ended the world. If the first sundering of Zodiark split the world into its many shards, what would happen if you split him to the point of complete dissolution?
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