So, can we just ban damage meters already.

[UnrealTai]

Well you said: If anyone feels the need to harass players who are probably still learning their rotation as they get new abilities? I absolutely agree they should be reported.


I clearly read your post, maybe you should re read what you posted.
Suggesting to report it instead of handling it yourself like an adult.
Seriously, the reporting is getting out of hand. Should not even be suggested anymore

[Goji1639]

Threads still going, eh..

Well you said: If anyone feels the need to harass players who are probably still learning their rotation as they get new abilities? I absolutely agree they should be reported.


I clearly read your post, maybe you should re read what you posted.
Suggesting to report it instead of handling it yourself like an adult.
Seriously, the reporting is getting out of hand. Should not even be suggested anymore

lol really, this is where we are now? Of course people harassing new players should be reported. If we can't even get a consensus on something that reasonable it's no wonder this games community is as terrible as it is.

New players aren't just going to hang around when socially inept nerds are constantly taking out their emotional dysfunction and insecurity on them; new players will just leave. Subscription model games need to KEEP players. If you're going to try to chase off new players then SE wants you gone, and obviously I don't blame them. They encourage people to report harassment and take it seriously. If you don't like getting reported then you may want to behave like an adult in groups.

[RoyalBeef]

it's no wonder this games community is as terrible as it is.

Is it tho? Or are you basing that claim on a few worst cases being brought up on the forums while tens of thousands of players are just having a good time?

[Goji1639]

Is it tho? Or are you basing that claim on a few worst cases being brought up on the forums while tens of thousands of players are just having a good time?

I'm basing my opinions on what I've personally seen. The only other MMO I've played is WoW and, at least while I was playing, basically no one got harassed in leveling dungeons. Late-game/end-game dungeons sure, but, I barely recall seeing people trying to one-up legitimately new players. Hasn't been the case with this game. The funny thing is that this is the game that actually warns you before runs when someone is new, probably to invoke some sympathy or patience. Seems to have had the opposite effect.

I am glad to hear that at the very least SE takes harassment seriously; with this community they need to. I've kind of gotten used to the idea that reporting people is useless from other games, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I'll start using my report button.

[Komarimono]

I'm basing my opinions on what I've personally seen. The only other MMO I've played is WoW and, at least while I was playing, basically no one got harassed in leveling dungeons. Late-game/end-game dungeons sure, but, I barely recall seeing people trying to one-up legitimately new players. Hasn't been the case with this game. The funny thing is that this is the game that actually warns you before runs when someone is new, probably to invoke some sympathy or patience. Seems to have had the opposite effect.

I am glad to hear that at the very least SE takes harassment seriously; with this community they need to. I've kind of gotten used to the idea that reporting people was kind of useless from other games, but that doesn't seem to be the case here. I'll start using my report button.

Again, as I said earlier and many others, we're not buying the story of new players constantly being harassed. I've never seen it, few if any ever do since It's quite rare.

As for WoW, of course you won't see harassment in leveling dungeons, 99% don't even enter a dungeon in WoW anymore as they level due to how much XP quests give, add onto the fact that you can be a few levels above the dungeon and solo it.

[Goji1639]

Again, as I said earlier and many others, we're not buying the story of new players constantly being harassed. I've never seen it, few if any ever do since It's quite rare.

As for WoW, of course you won't see harassment in leveling dungeons, 99% don't even enter a dungeon in WoW anymore as they level due to how much XP quests give, add onto the fact that you can be a few levels above the dungeon and solo it.

Not too concerned with whether or not you buy it. A lot of the responses and attitudes on this forum have confirmed for me what I've seen in the game.

I played WoW a while ago, and leveling dungeons were used plenty. I queued up constantly; with how fast you could stomp them it was faster than questing at a lot of intervals. It was common knowledge that the classes were heavily imbalanced before max level, though; with tanks and a few other AoE classes doing the vast majority of damage. Still, no ego trips or BS in leveling dungeons, and meters were perfectly legal. Just a better community, at least when it came to new players. The end game was every bit as toxic as what I've seen here, though. I honestly can't wait to see how bad the real progression content is here, seeing this communities attitude towards new players in trivial leveling dungeons.

[Komarimono]

Not too concerned with whether or not you buy it. A lot of the responses and attitudes on this forum have confirmed for me what I've seen in the game.

I played WoW a little while ago, and leveling dungeons were used plenty. I queued up constantly; with how fast you could stomp them it was faster than questing at a lot of intervals. It was common knowledge that the classes were heavily imbalanced before max level, though; with tanks and a few other AoE classes doing the vast majority of damage. Still, no ego trips or BS in leveling dungeons, and meters were perfectly legal. Just a better community, at least when it came to new players. The end game was every bit as toxic as what I've seen here, though. I honestly can't wait to see how bad the real progression content is here, seeing this communities attitude towards new players in trivial leveling dungeons.

End game is like any MMO. You lack the skill, good luck since won't see the content.
Think my guild cleared Vanilla Naxx 40 with luck pre 2.0 nerfs? Ha... Think we cleared Sunwell Pre Nerfs to M'uru and then pre patch nerfs with luck? lol... Think we got Server Firsts every time, and kept top 10 US and Top 47 World with Luck? nope...

It's like any MMO, you get back what you put into it. Slack and not have the skills needed and you simply don't progress, not hard to understand really.

And you've not seen anyone here mocking or attacking low level players in leveling dungeons. Keep in mind, once 50, no such thing as low end dungeons since can now do hard modes etc, which need people not to do stupid things. You get access to some rather difficult raids as well once unlock them. So, if you're thinking anything 50 and over as low level content, you need to change your mind set.

[Vidu]

lol really, this is where we are now? Of course people harassing new players should be reported. If we can't even get a consensus on something that reasonable it's no wonder this games community is as terrible as it is.

New players aren't just going to hang around when socially inept nerds are constantly taking out their emotional dysfunction and insecurity on them; new players will just leave. Subscription model games need to KEEP players. If you're going to try to chase off new players then SE wants you gone, and obviously I don't blame them. They encourage people to report harassment and take it seriously. If you don't like getting reported then you may want to behave like an adult in groups.

Just some friendly advice thats not 100% linkes to the original topic, but to your constant claims of this community being terrible: In my experience what you get out of things in general and social interactions in particular is what you put into it.
Going by the language you're using here you seem to put a lot of hate and anger into your interactions, aswell as an almost arrogant sense of "I have every damn right to be here and everyone has to put up with that! Deal with it!" Going by my personal theory of you-get-back-what-you-put-into-it I'm not surprised that your experience hasnt been all to pleasent, since I'll assume that the experience your party-members had with you wasnt to pleasent either.

I kinda like that you bring up the topic of "behaving an adult" because for me that includes standing up for your mistakes and doing everything in your power to improve as much as it includes not insulting people (for example by refering to them as "socially inept nerds" - thats just not a very mature thing to say).

If you want to have a better experience within the game and with the people playing the game you're better off making an effort by playing well, communicating and being a nice person that people would want to be nice to.
This is not me saying that harrassement is okay if you dont make an effort yourself, I can not stress enough that harrassement is never okay and should be reported!
But if your experience of the community is such an unpleasent one that you're going out of your way to spit out general insults you might want to look at your own behaviour and see if you cant improve upon that to make your own experience of the game and its community a better one.
In my experience the wast majority of people in this game are actually very nice, with the odd jerk here and there - but thats life. And you'll have a better time dealing with it if you change your own approach. You cant get rid of all the jerks and you probably cant even change one of them. You can only change how you, yourself, deal with them. And if you dont mind me saying this: You dont seem to have found a way that makes you happy yet.

So, yeah... my advice: Report them AND find a way for yourself to move on. Going on an insult-filled rampage on the forums doesnt seem like a good way, in my opinion at least.