Min ilvl setting and people saying this game is too east

[SerLuke]

So I’m curious here, I’ve seen a lot of people say the game is over all too easy and want more challenging content, my question is, how many of you are actually using the min ilvl setting with pre mades for more challenging runs?

[SerLuke]

That should be too easy in the thread title, sorry iPhone typos of which I am the king....

[Fynlar]

So I’m curious here, I’ve seen a lot of people say the game is over all too easy and want more challenging content, my question is, how many of you are actually using the min ilvl setting with pre mades for more challenging runs?

Probably no one, as there's no real incentives to doing so because you can't complete roulettes that way. There's also the matter that you yourself stated -- you'd need a premade, meaning you'd need 3/7/23 other like minded people who also feel like wasting their time doing a harder/slower duty without even getting roulette rewards for it.

A handful of ex trials will drop their (mostly worthless by now) music rolls more often. That's the only incentive. It isn't nearly enough.

[Nora_of_Mira]

So I’m curious here, I’ve seen a lot of people say the game is over all too easy and want more challenging content, my question is, how many of you are actually using the min ilvl setting with pre mades for more challenging runs?

all content outside Ultimate and current Savage is relatively easy, which is what, 95% of the content. So they're not technically wrong but I have to assume they don't do the challenging content.

[Kurando]

There is a Discord that exists for players that want to group up for min ilvl content so there is definitely some that enjoy it that way. Roulettes aren't all that important for everyone (it varies) if they have everything they need, so it gives a different and challenging activity to do

[Goji1639]

Hey, grinding until you severely outgear/outlevel content and then complaining that everything's too easy is an RPG tradition. We don't actually want things to be challenging; we just want to say tryhard/hardcore sounding things to make people think we're awesome at video games.

[galbsadi]

Such is the plague of people in literally every MMO I've seen (even WoW, the so-called 'king' of endgame content).

99 times out of 100, these people have also not cleared the current endgame.

Here the complaint goes "I don't have no mounts b/c I don't like no mounts and I can't get no savage because I don't ever work a schedule and PF sux but I easy-clear all the things and never get loot and also have no parses proving that I've done anything ever because I'm the ultimate anomaly in the universe!"

On WoW it goes "Endgame sux b/c it's all about raids and the raidz are all ezpz even though I've never cleared anything above LFR it must be an anomaly on my profile or I'm really on an alt so don't judge what my profile says and I iz hardcorez uberMythicz raiders when you must be a baddie b/c you've only cleared 4/8 by the end of week 3 and this is all because I'm the ultimate anomaly in the universe!"

In SWTOR it goes "All the operations are way too ezpz even though I've cleared none of them b/c they're too ezpz and I'm the ultimate anomaly in the universe!"

TL;DR - People who do this can be defined with a simple, five-letter word: troll

[SerLuke]

Probably no one, as there's no real incentives to doing so because you can't complete roulettes that way. There's also the matter that you yourself stated -- you'd need a premade, meaning you'd need 3/7/23 other like minded people who also feel like wasting their time doing a harder/slower duty without even getting roulette rewards for it.

A handful of ex trials will drop their (mostly worthless by now) music rolls more often. That's the only incentive. It isn't nearly enough.

I thought these people were claiming the incentive was the challenge itself and the rewards were meaningless? For example running The Burn at min ilvl vs a party of full i400s is a totally different animal, at min ilvl mechanic failures will kill

[SerLuke]

Hey, grinding until you severely outgear/outlevel content and then complaining that everything's too easy is an RPG tradition. We don't actually want things to be challenging; we just want to say tryhard/hardcore sounding things to make people think we're awesome at video games.

I won’t lie I prefer being over geared for stuff too so it’s either, I’m just trying to understand the difficulty complaint when min ilvl which is basically turning stuff into hard mode is not utilized.

[Nora_of_Mira]

I thought these people were claiming the incentive was the challenge itself and the rewards were meaningless? For example running The Burn at min ilvl vs a party of full i400s is a totally different animal, at min ilvl mechanic failures will kill

thats not the same as "harder content", thats just gimping yourself to make the content more challenging. I know people that do this for the laughs maybe once or twice when they're extremely bored. Like when SB was winding down, my FC tried to take down Seiryu extreme w/o job crystals. they got it to about 20% surprisingly.